Lance and W go for a ride
08-21-05, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by dog hair
i have no idea, dude. you're just way over my head. that, and i think you're probably the only one left here who feels like they have something to prove.
you know nothing more than i know. face it. accept it. if all you can do is dig up numbers you find on the internet and in time magazine....
well i guess you're the better googler. and i say that without having tried it yet.
you know nothing more than i know. face it. accept it. if all you can do is dig up numbers you find on the internet and in time magazine....
well i guess you're the better googler. and i say that without having tried it yet.
Good point ...
For future reference, please refrain from presenting an opinion that you have no interest in supporting. Nothing personal ... simply debating 101.
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08-21-05, 05:32 PM
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i don't write the recipe, i just stir the pot.
i can't help it. i've just lost interest in this one today.
i can't help it. i've just lost interest in this one today.
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08-21-05, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by hi565
his dad paid his way through college, remember. And he was never in the airforce, he dropped out before he did anything.
(ok Ive just contributed to this mess)
(ok Ive just contributed to this mess)
So the Air National Guard is not the real thing??? I know some good ol boys over there right now flying close air support, and MAC who are "weekend warriors" (I'll use the pharse for you) that might want to disagree with you. Lot's of people's daddy's paid their way through college...tell me this, how did Kerry get his degree paid for? I don't know, maybe you can enlighten me.
08-21-05, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by laduckslayer
So the Air National Guard is not the real thing??? I know some good ol boys over there right now flying close air support, and MAC who are "weekend warriors" (I'll use the pharse for you) that might want to disagree with you. Lot's of people's daddy's paid their way through college...tell me this, how did Kerry get his degree paid for? I don't know, maybe you can enlighten me.
Nobody has my respect, and gratitude more than these brave folks who sign up for duty knowing that they will be smack dab in the middle of harms way - nobody.
08-21-05, 06:47 PM
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Well Bush seems to wreck alot and if everyone got ahead of him or behind him..
It could be bad when he wrecks and no one is there to help him up.
OK newsflash to everyone who is defending bush. Please, understand, that Kerry lost the election. Most of us were not real excited about him anyway, the exciting candidate was destroyed for getting to excited. You no longer have to mention Kerry in your defense of the president.
It could be bad when he wrecks and no one is there to help him up.
OK newsflash to everyone who is defending bush. Please, understand, that Kerry lost the election. Most of us were not real excited about him anyway, the exciting candidate was destroyed for getting to excited. You no longer have to mention Kerry in your defense of the president.
08-21-05, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ginger green
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White House spokesman Trent Duffy said Armstrong was careful to respect "the first rule of biking," a hint that he did not overtake the president.
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White House spokesman Trent Duffy said Armstrong was careful to respect "the first rule of biking," a hint that he did not overtake the president.
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- Wil
08-21-05, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by PenguinDeD
but the picture i found of them clearly showed Lance ahead of el prez!
08-21-05, 08:11 PM
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Listen up everyone, I dig cycling and that's why I came to BF.net so I apologize to any of you that I offended. Let's just forgot about the politics and get back to enjoying cycling.
08-21-05, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ******bagonwhlz
Oh, what, would I give to put a stick, a fat one I might add, thru w's front spokes.
08-21-05, 09:04 PM
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MMMMMMM....the Bush twins in Camies......very, very, very, very, nice.........MMMMMMMM
You guys can argue back and forth all you want, the truth of the matter is that nobody knows what the truth is. History will be the biggest indicator on if this little adventure was worth it. (By adventure I mean not only Bush, but the Iraq war) Time has a way of filtering out the retoric and 'spin zones'. So I say we just leave it for right now and we can resume the debate 20 years down the line when the big picture becomes a little clearer.
Now back to the Bush twins doing a pat down in cammies.......MMMMMMMM......
You guys can argue back and forth all you want, the truth of the matter is that nobody knows what the truth is. History will be the biggest indicator on if this little adventure was worth it. (By adventure I mean not only Bush, but the Iraq war) Time has a way of filtering out the retoric and 'spin zones'. So I say we just leave it for right now and we can resume the debate 20 years down the line when the big picture becomes a little clearer.
Now back to the Bush twins doing a pat down in cammies.......MMMMMMMM......
08-21-05, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JuanIsTheMan
stevo820. whos the chick in your avatar?
08-21-05, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by gattm99
the exciting candidate was destroyed for getting to excited. You no longer have to mention Kerry in your defense of the president.
It was a full on paste up chop job. And in case you think this is coming from a Dean partisan, I'm a right wing libertarian Republican. But I know a chop job when I see it.
Despite my leanings, I think Dean and Mosely Braun were the quality of that field.
08-21-05, 11:49 PM
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Somehow, the thought of certain presidents cycling paints a funny picture in my brain:
George Washington on a road bike.
Richard Nixon on a mountain bike.
LBJ on a comfort bike.
George Washington on a road bike.
Richard Nixon on a mountain bike.
LBJ on a comfort bike.
08-22-05, 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by mscycler
I will post on this just one time, I dont like to discuss politics.
But, unless some of you people have concrete evidence of anything you guys are saying, just shut up. I have been to Iraq and Kuwait. The only form of transportation over there isnt bikes and camels. As a matter of fact, a status symbol among the Kuwaiti people is a Chevy Suburban. You see more of them on the road than anything. Everyone (not really everyone) in Baghdad has a vehicle, and it has an engine, not four legs or two wheels.
I find it easy to take news stories, combine them into one and post what I "know" too. That seems to be the deal here. No, the military isnt a draft based system anymore, but does that diminish the mothers right to be upset that her son died?
And where do you get off saying that Kerry is a bonafide war hero? Sure, he has three purple hearts, but two have been documented for self inflicted wounds. When I was in Iraq last year, I had a mortar land about 40 yards from me while I was stationed in Fallujah. I almost $hit my pants, can I get a purple heart and be called a bonafide war hero?
Some of you tree huggin, left wing hippies make me sick. I am a republican, but like the other poster, I dont always agree with what the republican party does. Just like I would tell you that you dont agree with everything the democrats propose.
I have said enough. I am not angry with anyone on the boards here. That is what makes this such a wonderful country to live in. The fact that we are able to choose different sides like this. I will say this though, if you arent happy with what is going on here, leave. I'll even by your plane ticket, just send me a PM.
mscycler
Operation Restore Hope (Somalia 1993-1994) veteran
Operation Iraqi Freedom II (Iraq 2003-2004) veteran
But, unless some of you people have concrete evidence of anything you guys are saying, just shut up. I have been to Iraq and Kuwait. The only form of transportation over there isnt bikes and camels. As a matter of fact, a status symbol among the Kuwaiti people is a Chevy Suburban. You see more of them on the road than anything. Everyone (not really everyone) in Baghdad has a vehicle, and it has an engine, not four legs or two wheels.
I find it easy to take news stories, combine them into one and post what I "know" too. That seems to be the deal here. No, the military isnt a draft based system anymore, but does that diminish the mothers right to be upset that her son died?
And where do you get off saying that Kerry is a bonafide war hero? Sure, he has three purple hearts, but two have been documented for self inflicted wounds. When I was in Iraq last year, I had a mortar land about 40 yards from me while I was stationed in Fallujah. I almost $hit my pants, can I get a purple heart and be called a bonafide war hero?
Some of you tree huggin, left wing hippies make me sick. I am a republican, but like the other poster, I dont always agree with what the republican party does. Just like I would tell you that you dont agree with everything the democrats propose.
I have said enough. I am not angry with anyone on the boards here. That is what makes this such a wonderful country to live in. The fact that we are able to choose different sides like this. I will say this though, if you arent happy with what is going on here, leave. I'll even by your plane ticket, just send me a PM.
mscycler
Operation Restore Hope (Somalia 1993-1994) veteran
Operation Iraqi Freedom II (Iraq 2003-2004) veteran
How about one of these....
08-22-05, 07:59 AM
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If you don't like the way the country is going - vote and shut up. Or better yet run for an office and do something about it.
Let's get back to cycling.
Let's get back to cycling.
08-22-05, 08:12 AM
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How come when I started a political thread it got moved after a few hours? This ones been here for days!
08-22-05, 08:17 AM
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I wonder if we can get the President to lobby congress for more funding for commuter bike lanes and riding trails?
Presidents work a lot even when on "vacation." Their advisors are there, dignitaries pay visits, Congressmen drop in, etc. Even when they are out on the golf course, riding the trails, or jogging down to McDonalds, the President is usually talking with someone about politics. Lance undoubtedly made his case for more cancer research while he was there.
Presidents work a lot even when on "vacation." Their advisors are there, dignitaries pay visits, Congressmen drop in, etc. Even when they are out on the golf course, riding the trails, or jogging down to McDonalds, the President is usually talking with someone about politics. Lance undoubtedly made his case for more cancer research while he was there.
08-22-05, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Urban Shooter
Please tell me what 50 million are free? Iraq? Their entire infrastructure was destroyed, just about everyone is living in worse conditions than before and there is an insurgency and now Iraq is the new home to creating the next generation of terrorists. I'll agree that ousting Sadam has saved some innocent lives but please don't paint a rosy picture of freedom and democracy in Iraq. And there is no guarantee that Iraq will go on to be a democratic country.
Your support of Bush is typical, blind devotion and spewing of party propoganda.
Your support of Bush is typical, blind devotion and spewing of party propoganda.
08-22-05, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Urban Shooter
Agreed, the Sheehan lady gives a bad name to all parents who have suffered a loss due to the Iraq conflict. This is an all-volunteer military and I understand how tragic it can be to lose a loved one, but come on. It also cheapens her son's sacrifice the way she has become a PR *****.
Funny how all the chickenhawks want to send other people's kids into harms way. If there was conscripted service we would not even be having this banter.