Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway

Mirrors

Old 03-28-01, 11:41 AM
  #1  
MikeC
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Posts: 40
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I'd like to use a mirror, but I've never found one that works for me. I like the look of my bike too much to add one of those big things to the bars, but when I've tried those tiny ones that attach to the helmet or glasses, I can't ever seem to get them lined up so that I can see a car approaching from behind. If I'm in the drops, I need one position, while the hoods need another, etc.
By the way, I ride with Oakley M Frames, and change the lenses according to light conditions.
I'd rather be a fred than dead, so does anyone have a good solution?
MikeC is offline  
Old 03-28-01, 12:54 PM
  #2  
RainmanP
Mr. Cellophane
 
RainmanP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: New Orleans, LA
Posts: 3,037
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I had one of the big clunky ones but replaced it with one of the smaller oval Blackburn bar end types. It is smaller, but kind of wide angle as in: Objects in mirror are closer than they appear. A small bar plug mount is mounted in place of your left bar end plug, and the mirror is slipped on and tightened with an allen wrench. Very adjustable, including bent straight down on drop bars and wide angle enough to accomodate different positions without adjustment. You could easily take the mirror itself off and leave the rather unobtrusive mount in place as your plug for races or other situations where you don't want/need the mirror. Most bike shops seem to have them. I really like it for my daily commuting.
Regards,
Raymond
RainmanP is offline  
Old 03-29-01, 05:03 AM
  #3  
roadbuzz
Just ride.
 
roadbuzz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: C-ville, Va
Posts: 3,252
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I've never used a helmet mounted mirror, but those or the glasses-mounted mirrors are probably your best shot. These give a wider field of rear view, and you can adjust where you look just by moving your head.

I'd say to give the glasses-mounted mirror another try. In my own case, and others I've talked to, it takes a while to get the adjustment dialed in. Typically, people set them up using their ear or shoulder as reference points, without swinging it so far up or out as to make it uncomfortable to look. And not so far in as to interfere significantly with the forward field of view.
roadbuzz is offline  
Old 03-29-01, 10:36 AM
  #4  
aerobat
Love Me....Love My Bike!
 
aerobat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Winnipeg
Posts: 1,231

Bikes: Bikes: Giant hybrid, Trek 4500, Cannondale R800 Some commuting 20mi/day, mostly fitness riding - 20-50 mile rides

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I use a bar end type mirror too, on my hybrid, haven't tried it yet on my road bike. One thing I've found with different types is the amount of convexivity (convexness?). whatever, varies. Some of them make the object appear so small that it is too close by the time you see it in the mirror to be of any use. I actually had to combine two different types to get the best mount/mirror combination. As Rainman says, for commuting they are ideal, but don't forget to shoulder check as well!
__________________
"...perhaps the world needs a little more Canada" - Jean Chretian, 2003.
aerobat is offline  
Old 03-29-01, 11:32 AM
  #5  
RainmanP
Mr. Cellophane
 
RainmanP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: New Orleans, LA
Posts: 3,037
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Definitely shoulder check before making any kind of move. I use my mirror strictly as an early warning system to keep track of what is coming up from behind.
RainmanP is offline  
Old 03-29-01, 01:21 PM
  #6  
Joe Gardner
BikeForums Founder
 
Joe Gardner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Utah.
Posts: 4,249
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Zefal makes a really nice bar end mirror, I have not yet tried the glasses-mounted or helmet-mounted mirrors.

Remember, mirrors tell when when its not safe to move, not when it is safe to move... Like rainman says, always to a shoulder check.
Joe Gardner is offline  
Old 03-29-01, 03:16 PM
  #7  
LittleBigMan
Sumanitu taka owaci
 
LittleBigMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 8,945
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I like mirrors; mine is a helmet-mounted one. I can scan behind for a long distance with a small move of my head.
I got so used to it that I tried to use it one day while I was out walking.

But I don't depend on it for lane changes or merging, just to scan way behind me to get a general picture. Hey, I don't depend on my car's mirrors, either. When changing lanes, nothing substitutes for eye-contact (or something very close).

The helmet mounted kind attaches with a kind of glue-patch, but eventually I had to tape mine to the helmet to
make it secure. If it's glass, don't toss it--you'll crack the mirror (I still use mine, even though it's cracked and I need a new one. I don't really notice it, usually).

Anyway, I think it's great!
LittleBigMan is offline  
Old 03-30-01, 02:16 PM
  #8  
RainmanP
Mr. Cellophane
 
RainmanP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: New Orleans, LA
Posts: 3,037
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Hey, Pete, how's this for weird? A couple of weeks ago I was walking down the street (on the sidewalk) when I heard a car approaching from behind. My eyes instinctively went to my mirror to see where the vehicle was positioned in the lane. I was confused for a split second, wondering what had happened to my mirror! Not that being confused is a strange experience for me. :-)
Raymond
RainmanP is offline  
Old 03-30-01, 11:25 PM
  #9  
mike
Senior Member
 
mike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Snowy midwest
Posts: 5,392
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
You know, we seem to say it again and again; "Those clever Japanese"!

I was bicycling in Japan last week and purchased a mirror in Japan for the bike I was using. Holy Moly, I could see behind me almost as well as I could see in front of me. That mirror could fit Mt. Fuji, Tokyo, and Gozilla all in one view.

I don't know how they designed it, but the bottom part was wider than the top in a kind of hectogram shape. Ah, if only you could have been there, you would understand what I mean. Hmm. Well, anyway...

So, I bought a bunch of them delighted with the thought of using them on my bike at home and sharing with friends. Low and behold, the Japanese mirrors are designed specifically to be used on the right side of the bike because the Japanese drive on the wrong side (the left side) of the road like the British. Right-O-, mate.

They are absolutely useless here in the states on the left side of the bike.

Sayonara cool mirror from Japan.

Last edited by mike; 03-31-01 at 10:30 PM.
mike is offline  
Old 04-05-10, 07:37 PM
  #10  
jimmuller 
What??? Only 2 wheels?
 
jimmuller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Boston-ish, MA
Posts: 13,062

Bikes: 73 Raleigh Carlton Gran Sport, 72 Peugeot UO-8, 82 Peugeot TH8, 87 Bianchi Brava, 76? Masi Grand Criterium, 87 Centurion Ironman Expert, 74 Motobecane Champion Team, 86 & 77 Gazelle champion mondial, 81? Grandis, 82? Tommasini, 83 Peugeot PFN10

Mentioned: 169 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1046 Post(s)
Liked 13 Times in 11 Posts
Originally Posted by LittleBigMan View Post
I like mirrors; mine is a helmet-mounted one. I can scan behind for a long distance with a small move of my head.
Agreed. A few seconds of adjustment at the start of a ride and a few minutes to get used to it, and you'll begin to feel naked without it.
jimmuller is offline  
Old 04-05-10, 07:40 PM
  #11  
10 Wheels
Galveston County Texas
 
10 Wheels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: In The Wind
Posts: 30,995

Bikes: 2010 Expedition, 03 GTO

Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 709 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
I like these:
http://www.messengermirror.com/

__________________
Fred "The Real Fred"
10 Wheels is offline  
Old 04-05-10, 07:53 PM
  #12  
Hot Potato
Senior Member
 
Hot Potato's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Western Chicagoland
Posts: 1,821
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mirrycle ROAD mirror, if you have sti shifters. Makes routine monitoring of behind you effortless, doesn't replace a head check. Pops on or off in seconds. I hate those tiny head mirrors, used to love them, aging I guess.
Google Italian road mirror for something less conspicuous.

Attached Images
File Type: jpg
road_mirror..jpg (14.4 KB, 5 views)
Hot Potato is offline  
Old 04-05-10, 07:56 PM
  #13  
datlas 
Beyond Bogus
 
datlas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Malvern, PA (20 miles West of Philly)
Posts: 28,276

Bikes: 1986 Alpine (steel road bike), 2009 Ti Habenero, 2013 Specialized Roubaix

Mentioned: 385 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8512 Post(s)
Liked 82 Times in 52 Posts
Originally Posted by 10 Wheels View Post
I am sure that's a fine mirror, but I can't help but notice the headband is trying to say "fred"
datlas is offline  
Old 04-05-10, 08:00 PM
  #14  
10 Wheels
Galveston County Texas
 
10 Wheels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: In The Wind
Posts: 30,995

Bikes: 2010 Expedition, 03 GTO

Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 709 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
TVM Hat.
Farm
Frites.
__________________
Fred "The Real Fred"
10 Wheels is offline  
Old 04-05-10, 08:02 PM
  #15  
daredevil
cyclepath
 
daredevil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: "The Last Best Place"
Posts: 3,550

Bikes: 2005 Trek Pilot 5.0, 2001 Specialized Sirrus Pro, Kona Lava Dome, Raleigh hardtail converted to commuter, 87 Takara steel road bike, 2008 Trek Soho

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
While a head check is certainly not a bad idea before a maneuver, it really isn't necessary. We have learned the habit because of the blind spot in vehicles whose mirrors are stationary. A movable mirror has no blind spot. I use helmet mounted mirrors or the Take-A-Look when not using a helmet. They are extremely effective. I think you just need to use them more until you figure it out.
__________________
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Without music, life would be a mistake."
-- Friedrich Nietzsche
daredevil is offline  
Old 04-05-10, 08:12 PM
  #16  
Carbon Unit
Live to ride ride to live
 
Carbon Unit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 4,896

Bikes: Calfee Tetra Pro

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Some one on another bike forum recommended the Bike Peddler mirror and I have been using now for three years. I will not ride without it. The mirror is larger than any of the glasses mounted mirrors that I have seen. If you are in the drops, you just need to move your head slightly to the right or left to see.

http://tinyurl.com/y9hg8v5
Carbon Unit is offline  
Old 04-05-10, 08:25 PM
  #17  
clydeosaur
Senior Member
 
clydeosaur's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Central PA
Posts: 629

Bikes: Cannondale Six5, Specialized Stumpjumper FSR & old Hard Rock

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I've got the "Roadie" bar end mirror as well. I've got to say, when I'm running with traffic, I won't ride without it. I don't care what somebody thinks. I've already been hit once & would like to prevent from happening again as much as possible.
clydeosaur is offline  
Old 04-05-10, 08:36 PM
  #18  
grwoolf
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Austin
Posts: 1,272
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Do a search for "Italilan Road Bike Mirror". I've been using one about 9 months and really like it. I tried the style that goes on your glasses, but just couldn't get used to it and didn't want another piece of equipment to mess with.
grwoolf is offline  
Old 04-05-10, 08:36 PM
  #19  
doctor j
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Central Louisiana
Posts: 3,055
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 39 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 1 Post
I've had good luck with a Third Eye bar end mirror.
doctor j is offline  
Old 04-06-10, 04:42 AM
  #20  
scirocco
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Perth, W.A.
Posts: 935
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by grwoolf View Post
Do a search for "Italilan Road Bike Mirror". I've been using one about 9 months and really like it. I tried the style that goes on your glasses, but just couldn't get used to it and didn't want another piece of equipment to mess with.
+1.
scirocco is offline  
Old 04-06-10, 05:55 AM
  #21  
rollin
Sua Ku
 
rollin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Hot as hell, Singapore
Posts: 5,705

Bikes: Trek 5200, BMC SLC01, BMC SSX, Specialized FSR, Holdsworth Criterium

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by jimmuller View Post
Agreed. A few seconds of adjustment at the start of a ride and a few minutes to get used to it, and you'll begin to feel naked without it.
I'm sure 9 years on he happy you agreed with him!

Didn't have these in 2001:

rollin is offline  
Old 04-06-10, 06:23 AM
  #22  
jimmuller 
What??? Only 2 wheels?
 
jimmuller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Boston-ish, MA
Posts: 13,062

Bikes: 73 Raleigh Carlton Gran Sport, 72 Peugeot UO-8, 82 Peugeot TH8, 87 Bianchi Brava, 76? Masi Grand Criterium, 87 Centurion Ironman Expert, 74 Motobecane Champion Team, 86 & 77 Gazelle champion mondial, 81? Grandis, 82? Tommasini, 83 Peugeot PFN10

Mentioned: 169 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1046 Post(s)
Liked 13 Times in 11 Posts
Agreeable

Originally Posted by rollin View Post
I'm sure 9 years on he happy you agreed with him!
Truth is timeless.
jimmuller is offline  
Old 04-06-10, 12:02 PM
  #23  
BikeSpds
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 20
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I just installed the Mirrycle ROAD mirror (STI mount) on my Felt. Couldn't be happier. Looks like it belongs on the bike, and you can see what's coming up on you. Doesn't get out of adjustment like the mirror on my hybrid, either. Until I got this installed, I was almost afraid to ride the bike. Saturday I was s-o-o-o comfortable riding on the road.
BikeSpds is offline  
Old 04-06-10, 12:57 PM
  #24  
Daytrip
Medicinal Cyclist
 
Daytrip's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Mohawk Valley/Adks, NYS
Posts: 2,807

Bikes: 2003 Klein Q Carbon Race; 2009 Giant OCR-1

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by RainmanP View Post
Definitely shoulder check before making any kind of move. I use my mirror strictly as an early warning system to keep track of what is coming up from behind.
+1

I have a bar-end mirror that I like a lot. When you get bored, you can adjust it so that you can admire your massive left guad.
Daytrip is offline  
Old 04-06-10, 03:30 PM
  #25  
ID64
Senior Member
 
ID64's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Richmond Hill, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 545

Bikes: Cervelo S3

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by 10 Wheels View Post
I use to be a mirror advocate in the past. And I still have this type mirror. While it works fine and it's less Fredly than other types it's just gives me chills when I am thinking what could happen in case of a accident! Long, sharp wire with a glass attached to it?

I've made a habit to look over my shoulder and keep my ears open.
ID64 is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.