Bike Forums

Bike Forums (https://www.bikeforums.net/forum.php)
-   Road Cycling (https://www.bikeforums.net/road-cycling/)
-   -   Just how steep is 12%?? (https://www.bikeforums.net/road-cycling/145704-just-how-steep-12-a.html)

cycleprincess 10-12-05 02:43 PM

Just how steep is 12%??
 
I have a ride this Saturday in Mineral Wells. I have heard stories of Cherry Pie Hill which I have been told is 2/3 of a mile at 12%. Okay...I can handle 2/3 of a mile. But I'm not entirely sure how steep 12% is. Sounds steep. I'm a hill slug...so it may take me longer to get up this hill then it will to do the 50 miles. They give you a pin if you finish the hill....

I'm screwed. I'm fairly certain of that.

cydewaze 10-12-05 02:45 PM

If you have a triple, you'll be fine. Jess pulled over 12% on Sugarloaf Mtn a few weeks ago, and this is her first full season riding. I think you'll be ok. Just pace yourself, and start off in an easy gear rather than chasing the gears down as you climb.

timmhaan 10-12-05 02:45 PM

that's very steep by almost anyone's standards. not impossible - but it will be a hard climb for sure.

sandy_pangle 10-12-05 02:47 PM

5280 feet in a mile X .667 = 3521 feet travelled.
3521 feet travelled X .12 = 422 feet of rise

In layman's terms that means you will climb 1-1/2 football fields of elevation in 2/3 of a mile. Hope ya got a triple!!!

TheKillerPenguin 10-12-05 02:48 PM

you can do it, but if you're not used to it it's going to hurt a lot. Prepare to zig zag, hill slug :D

timmhaan 10-12-05 02:50 PM

wow, that's in texas (looked it up) i didn't think texas had much in the way of climbs.

EURO 10-12-05 02:52 PM

It really depends on your ability, your body weight and what you are used to.

I ride up 18% inclines in 39-19. I ride up short stretches of 12% in the big ring.

cycleprincess 10-12-05 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by EURO
It really depends on your ability, your body weight and what you are used to.

I ride up 18% inclines in 39-19. I ride up short stretches of 12% in the big ring.

Dang...I'm totally screwed. I'm 198 on a good day. (Sorry to shatter any images you may have of "the princess") And I suck. What I'm used to is what most Texan's are used to FLAT! Well...we have rolling hills but this just sounds painful. :cry:

Oh...and I am familiar with the zig AND the zag. My tripple is greased and ready.

TheKillerPenguin 10-12-05 03:09 PM

ahh, 12% with a triple will be cake. Don't sweat it

johnny99 10-12-05 03:26 PM

12% is fairly steep if most of your rides are flat, but unless you are seriously overweight, 0.6 mile is hardly anything. Some of my rides have several 0.5 mile 15% pitches in the middle of a 10 mile climb.

jschen 10-12-05 03:28 PM

12%, huh? That's quite steep in my book. But then, I've been cycling for only 3 months. I'm uncomfortable with more than ~8%, but I'm working on it. Hopefully, you can find a pace that's not so hard that you burn out, but not so slowly that your cadence bogs down. Have fun!

vertlook 10-12-05 04:15 PM

Just started riding this summer and I also suck at climbing and I have 12% about 0.7 mile climb on my ride - I do it on the smallest gear with average speed ~6 m/h and it is not bad at all. Just do not push to hard in the beginning of the climb. Good luck and enjoy!

hi565 10-12-05 04:18 PM

Pace yourself, pace yourself, pace yourself!!!!

That is complete key. Don't try to chase the group, do what you can do. When I did my first climbing experience I was hurting all over. But I was thankful to have a triple, before I knew it I was going about 6 mph (talk about max heart rate!) and I was cranking along at the easiest gear I could. But I did it and I just paced my way through the whole thing. And relax. Don't put a death grip on your bar, also try to keep on the upper parts of your bar to try to keep your self up right and relaxed. Oh BTW


HAVE FUN! :D

Bluechip 10-12-05 04:20 PM

Hey, I from TX too! In Cypress, northwest of Houston. Flat as a pancake around here. I have to go a little north to see anything more than an overpass. 12% sounds pretty steep to me too, but I think you will be able to make it. In the BP MS150 when it goes through Bastrop St. Park it can get a little steep also but my wife made it up with her triple just fine. Just pace yourself and the 2/3 of a mile will be over before you know it. Good luck!

steppinthefunk 10-12-05 04:23 PM

Just if anybodies wondering, I noticed nobody really posted how percent grade is calculated:

%grade = Number of feet rise / 100 feet
ie: 12% grade = 12 foot rise for every 100 feet

SpongeDad 10-12-05 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by hi565
Pace yourself, pace yourself, pace yourself!!!!

That is complete key. Don't try to chase the group, do what you can do. When I did my first climbing experience I was hurting all over. But I was thankful to have a triple, before I knew it I was going about 6 mph (talk about max heart rate!) and I was cranking along at the easiest gear I could. But I did it and I just paced my way through the whole thing. And relax. Don't put a death grip on your bar, also try to keep on the upper parts of your bar to try to keep your self up right and relaxed. Oh BTW


HAVE FUN! :D

+1 This is really the best advice. If you're working hard early on, then drop a gear if you can. Just try to get up at a reasonable cadence. Don't try to compensate by spinning like mad. The real goal is to not be fried at the top so you can ride a reasonable pace for the rest of the day.

I think 12% is difficult, and I'm reasonably fit. I hit a .2 mile hill at 12% last week and when up in 39/23. I was standing up the whole way and definitely feeling some pain. I was wishing I had my triple by the top, too.

As a little perspective, the Mt Washington Hill Climb averages 12%. Riders who can average 6mph up that hill (over 7 miles) are considered pretty strong. No amount of momentum is going to get you up a 0.6 mile hill at 12%, so if you can hold onto 4 or 5 mph, I'd say that's pretty good. (It'll be over in 8-9 minutes.)

MRVcycles 10-12-05 04:47 PM

Don't forget to eat and drink before you get to the climb. The extra energy wil help.

Shifty 10-12-05 04:55 PM

There was a very similar climb (13-14%) on the Santa Fe Century, people said that 60 to 70% of the riders walked all or part of it. They had a band there, rest stop at the bottom (should have been at top). So the folks walking were having a fun time (so many of them), and those who rode it were feeling good, everybody won. Have fun either way, it's just a ride, make it fun.

JJakucyk 10-12-05 05:13 PM

I can't get up a 4.5% grade without going into my granny gear, so 12% would probably see me walking. I'm heavy though, so you might not have as much of an issue. I don't suppose you can try it out beforehand?

This street is about 11-12%. It doesn't look like much at first, but look at the building foundations to see how much it's really sloping.

http://www.enquirer.com/editions/200...camorehill.jpg

Warblade 10-12-05 05:34 PM

For the average rider it's steep. For racers its a matter of going faster up it. Like I remember last year at a Stage Race some damn canadian attacked going up a 14-15% grade doing something around 20-22 mph (serious :eek: ), needless to say my legs were lactic acidy for like a 3 or 4 days after...Ride more and 12% will get easier, buts it's still hard.

thewalrus 10-12-05 05:39 PM

If you plan to encounter 10-12-13% hills regularly and have a double, maybe swap the 39 chainring for a 38 and get a 12-27 cassette? Strong riders should be OK with 12% up and out of the saddle for a short distance in a gear like 38-27...

puddin' legs 10-12-05 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by Warblade
For the average rider it's steep. For racers its a matter of going faster up it. Like I remember last year at a Stage Race some damn canadian attacked going up a 14-15% grade doing something around 20-22 mph (serious :eek: ), needless to say my legs were lactic acidy for like a 3 or 4 days after...Ride more and 12% will get easier, buts it's still hard.



:) I was going to say, it's not the grade that will kill you, but the speed you have to go up it!

puddin' legs 10-12-05 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by MRVcycles
Don't forget to eat and drink before you get to the climb. The extra energy wil help.


Eating and extra drinking before a hill generally make me want to toss my cookies... The OP's hill is only a kilometer long so I imagine they'll be fine. :)

slvoid 10-12-05 05:57 PM

1 Attachment(s)
This is pretty steep...

einstruzende 10-12-05 05:58 PM

Here in Ohio the "toughest" hill is only 0.5 miles at 13% average grade.

Now i'm a big guy. Two hundred and thirty pounds big. I ride up that silly thing with a 53/39 and 12-26 cassette. I average about 5mph up it.

So my conclusion is that the hill you are talking about is completely doable by most people that can ride a bike, are lighter than me, and have a triple.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:58 AM.


Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.