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Just how steep is 12%??

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Old 10-12-05 | 02:43 PM
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Just how steep is 12%??

I have a ride this Saturday in Mineral Wells. I have heard stories of Cherry Pie Hill which I have been told is 2/3 of a mile at 12%. Okay...I can handle 2/3 of a mile. But I'm not entirely sure how steep 12% is. Sounds steep. I'm a hill slug...so it may take me longer to get up this hill then it will to do the 50 miles. They give you a pin if you finish the hill....

I'm screwed. I'm fairly certain of that.
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If you have a triple, you'll be fine. Jess pulled over 12% on Sugarloaf Mtn a few weeks ago, and this is her first full season riding. I think you'll be ok. Just pace yourself, and start off in an easy gear rather than chasing the gears down as you climb.
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that's very steep by almost anyone's standards. not impossible - but it will be a hard climb for sure.
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Old 10-12-05 | 02:47 PM
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5280 feet in a mile X .667 = 3521 feet travelled.
3521 feet travelled X .12 = 422 feet of rise

In layman's terms that means you will climb 1-1/2 football fields of elevation in 2/3 of a mile. Hope ya got a triple!!!
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Old 10-12-05 | 02:48 PM
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you can do it, but if you're not used to it it's going to hurt a lot. Prepare to zig zag, hill slug
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Old 10-12-05 | 02:50 PM
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wow, that's in texas (looked it up) i didn't think texas had much in the way of climbs.
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Old 10-12-05 | 02:52 PM
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It really depends on your ability, your body weight and what you are used to.

I ride up 18% inclines in 39-19. I ride up short stretches of 12% in the big ring.
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Old 10-12-05 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by EURO
It really depends on your ability, your body weight and what you are used to.

I ride up 18% inclines in 39-19. I ride up short stretches of 12% in the big ring.
Dang...I'm totally screwed. I'm 198 on a good day. (Sorry to shatter any images you may have of "the princess") And I suck. What I'm used to is what most Texan's are used to FLAT! Well...we have rolling hills but this just sounds painful.

Oh...and I am familiar with the zig AND the zag. My tripple is greased and ready.
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Old 10-12-05 | 03:09 PM
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ahh, 12% with a triple will be cake. Don't sweat it
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Old 10-12-05 | 03:26 PM
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12% is fairly steep if most of your rides are flat, but unless you are seriously overweight, 0.6 mile is hardly anything. Some of my rides have several 0.5 mile 15% pitches in the middle of a 10 mile climb.
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Old 10-12-05 | 03:28 PM
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12%, huh? That's quite steep in my book. But then, I've been cycling for only 3 months. I'm uncomfortable with more than ~8%, but I'm working on it. Hopefully, you can find a pace that's not so hard that you burn out, but not so slowly that your cadence bogs down. Have fun!
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Old 10-12-05 | 04:15 PM
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Just started riding this summer and I also suck at climbing and I have 12% about 0.7 mile climb on my ride - I do it on the smallest gear with average speed ~6 m/h and it is not bad at all. Just do not push to hard in the beginning of the climb. Good luck and enjoy!
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Old 10-12-05 | 04:18 PM
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Pace yourself, pace yourself, pace yourself!!!!

That is complete key. Don't try to chase the group, do what you can do. When I did my first climbing experience I was hurting all over. But I was thankful to have a triple, before I knew it I was going about 6 mph (talk about max heart rate!) and I was cranking along at the easiest gear I could. But I did it and I just paced my way through the whole thing. And relax. Don't put a death grip on your bar, also try to keep on the upper parts of your bar to try to keep your self up right and relaxed. Oh BTW


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Old 10-12-05 | 04:20 PM
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Hey, I from TX too! In Cypress, northwest of Houston. Flat as a pancake around here. I have to go a little north to see anything more than an overpass. 12% sounds pretty steep to me too, but I think you will be able to make it. In the BP MS150 when it goes through Bastrop St. Park it can get a little steep also but my wife made it up with her triple just fine. Just pace yourself and the 2/3 of a mile will be over before you know it. Good luck!
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Old 10-12-05 | 04:23 PM
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Just if anybodies wondering, I noticed nobody really posted how percent grade is calculated:

%grade = Number of feet rise / 100 feet
ie: 12% grade = 12 foot rise for every 100 feet
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Originally Posted by hi565
Pace yourself, pace yourself, pace yourself!!!!

That is complete key. Don't try to chase the group, do what you can do. When I did my first climbing experience I was hurting all over. But I was thankful to have a triple, before I knew it I was going about 6 mph (talk about max heart rate!) and I was cranking along at the easiest gear I could. But I did it and I just paced my way through the whole thing. And relax. Don't put a death grip on your bar, also try to keep on the upper parts of your bar to try to keep your self up right and relaxed. Oh BTW


HAVE FUN!
+1 This is really the best advice. If you're working hard early on, then drop a gear if you can. Just try to get up at a reasonable cadence. Don't try to compensate by spinning like mad. The real goal is to not be fried at the top so you can ride a reasonable pace for the rest of the day.

I think 12% is difficult, and I'm reasonably fit. I hit a .2 mile hill at 12% last week and when up in 39/23. I was standing up the whole way and definitely feeling some pain. I was wishing I had my triple by the top, too.

As a little perspective, the Mt Washington Hill Climb averages 12%. Riders who can average 6mph up that hill (over 7 miles) are considered pretty strong. No amount of momentum is going to get you up a 0.6 mile hill at 12%, so if you can hold onto 4 or 5 mph, I'd say that's pretty good. (It'll be over in 8-9 minutes.)
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Old 10-12-05 | 04:47 PM
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Don't forget to eat and drink before you get to the climb. The extra energy wil help.
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Old 10-12-05 | 04:55 PM
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There was a very similar climb (13-14%) on the Santa Fe Century, people said that 60 to 70% of the riders walked all or part of it. They had a band there, rest stop at the bottom (should have been at top). So the folks walking were having a fun time (so many of them), and those who rode it were feeling good, everybody won. Have fun either way, it's just a ride, make it fun.
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Old 10-12-05 | 05:13 PM
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I can't get up a 4.5% grade without going into my granny gear, so 12% would probably see me walking. I'm heavy though, so you might not have as much of an issue. I don't suppose you can try it out beforehand?

This street is about 11-12%. It doesn't look like much at first, but look at the building foundations to see how much it's really sloping.

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Old 10-12-05 | 05:34 PM
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For the average rider it's steep. For racers its a matter of going faster up it. Like I remember last year at a Stage Race some damn canadian attacked going up a 14-15% grade doing something around 20-22 mph (serious ), needless to say my legs were lactic acidy for like a 3 or 4 days after...Ride more and 12% will get easier, buts it's still hard.
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Old 10-12-05 | 05:39 PM
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If you plan to encounter 10-12-13% hills regularly and have a double, maybe swap the 39 chainring for a 38 and get a 12-27 cassette? Strong riders should be OK with 12% up and out of the saddle for a short distance in a gear like 38-27...
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Old 10-12-05 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Warblade
For the average rider it's steep. For racers its a matter of going faster up it. Like I remember last year at a Stage Race some damn canadian attacked going up a 14-15% grade doing something around 20-22 mph (serious ), needless to say my legs were lactic acidy for like a 3 or 4 days after...Ride more and 12% will get easier, buts it's still hard.


I was going to say, it's not the grade that will kill you, but the speed you have to go up it!
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Old 10-12-05 | 05:52 PM
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Don't forget to eat and drink before you get to the climb. The extra energy wil help.

Eating and extra drinking before a hill generally make me want to toss my cookies... The OP's hill is only a kilometer long so I imagine they'll be fine.
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Old 10-12-05 | 05:57 PM
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This is pretty steep...
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Old 10-12-05 | 05:58 PM
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Here in Ohio the "toughest" hill is only 0.5 miles at 13% average grade.

Now i'm a big guy. Two hundred and thirty pounds big. I ride up that silly thing with a 53/39 and 12-26 cassette. I average about 5mph up it.

So my conclusion is that the hill you are talking about is completely doable by most people that can ride a bike, are lighter than me, and have a triple.
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