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Saddle, saddle, who has my saddle?

Old 02-10-06 | 10:59 AM
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Saddle, saddle, who has my saddle?

Uggh,
I swap saddles like rock stars go through girls and
I have a lot less fun. Over the last couple years I have been using either a Brooks Champion B17 or the Brooks Flyer. Neither is great over 50 miles, but if all else fails, I'll try the Flyer again. It hasn't been on my new frame yet.

I used to use a Selle Italia FLX. This is a clever saddle with shock absorbers that actually work. It's too wide, especially in the nose, but other than that it worked well. I have a Trans Am XO coming from England at the moment.

WTB has a new saddle called the Street Smart XL. I might try that.
The problem is that any small change can mean a saddle goes from tolerable to torture. And since most are made for young bucks or guys who don't ride much, I find myself in a familiar position. It's been a constant in my life, the shoes are never wide enough,shorts and jerseys are too big or too small, the saddle never quite fits, the frame wasn't built for legs this short, there just are not a lot of guys like me out there.
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Old 02-10-06 | 11:29 AM
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Try one of the Specialized Body Geometry saddles. They come in different widths to fit your behind.
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Old 02-10-06 | 11:32 AM
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Old 02-10-06 | 11:32 AM
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Yeah,
I sat on the Specialized Butt-O-Meter and they gave me a saddle to try and I hated it. Sorry, it simply did not work for me.
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Old 02-10-06 | 12:06 PM
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Bikes: Eddy Merckx Corsa Extra, Basso Loto, Pinarello Stelvio, Redline Cyclocross

Saddles I've tried:

Selle Italia:

Flite - WAY too narrow for me but several people I know including a guy with a butt as big as a Ford Truck think they are comfortable.

Flite Gel - One good position and I get danmed tired of it really fast.

Turbomatic 3 - Good saddle, maybe not perfect but close

Turbo - old saddle impossible to find. I can't stand them but lots of people loved them.

Selle San Marco:

Rolls - Nice fit but they're too soft and squoosh up into the perenial area and start hurting after 30 miles.

Regal - The KING of saddles available in several different rails. The steel rail one is generally better for me but the ti rail model is fine too. This saddle like most is EXTREMELY critical to forward, backward tilt. In the correct tilt it is the best saddle I've used. In the wrong tilt you will start crying very shortly.

Aspide - as hard as a rock and actually VERY comfortable. Trouble is that like some of the otehr saddles you can't move around on it because it's too small. However I did an 80 mile ride on one and had no problems so perhaps you can adapt.

Concor - WOW a GOOD saddle. They were on sale at Nashbar for $10 so it's a cheap trick and if it works for you that's find. It is heavy.

Lance Saddle - this was advertised as a light version of the Concor but it isn't. It's fractionally too narrow but you can probably still use it on long rides. It weights less than anything except the Aspide in this group.

Fizik:

Aliante - One position comfortable, light but not exceptionally so. Too small to move around on.

Brooks:

B17 - Not a bad saddle but I don't see any advantage to them. And they're heavy and expensive for what they are.

Misc:

I've tried a lot of other saddles such as those from Specialized, Vetta, Avocet and the like. The best of them were passable at best.

The saddles on most of my bikes are Regal. The Concor feels like it would work as well but I haven't taken it on a really long ride.
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Old 02-10-06 | 01:13 PM
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I switched from a Selle Italia Flite Gel to a Terry Fly.
At 5-8, 140 lbs, I couldn't be happier with a saddle.

I've suffered for years from restricted bloodflow that I just thought was part of cycling. For as long as I've ridden bikes I had too much pressure on the perenium that caused numbness.

I finally bought into the hype of the cutout saddle and am THRILLED with this saddle. Try one out.
You can get the older model without the corny "buzz off" logo for around $20 on ebay.
Or you can buy a goofy new one for $120ish.
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Old 02-10-06 | 01:26 PM
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Studies have shown that cutouts make no difference to saddle comfort or blood flow.
The most important variable is seating postion and sitting up too vertical on a saddle. You shouldn't really "sit" on a saddle. People who change saddles frequently don't give them enough time, if it feels good out of the box, it will likely not work for you in the long run. My specialized toupe was painful on my sit bones for about a week and a half, once my ass got used to it, it turned into an all day saddle, despite no padding.
Ride the drops more. Avoid padding.

People who complain about narrow saddles sit up too vertical. Look at what pros use, they can ride narrow saddles 6hrs/day because of proper cycling technique. If you sit up and never use the drops, wider is better and move the seat forward.
 
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Old 02-10-06 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DocRay
Studies have shown that cutouts make no difference to saddle comfort or blood flow.
Studies can be made to come to whatever conclusion is most beneficial to the person or group doing the study. The only study that's important to me is the study of what used to happen to my C&B and the extreme improvement in bloodflow and coinciding comfort. My own personal study has shown that the part of me that used to be smashed, thereby blocking bloodflow, has been allowed expand naturally. There is a VERY visible difference in the amount of bloodflow going into the region. I don't think I need to elaborate.

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The most important variable is seating postion and sitting up too vertical on a saddle. You shouldn't really "sit" on a saddle. People who change saddles frequently don't give them enough time, if it feels good out of the box, it will likely not work for you in the long run. My specialized toupe was painful on my sit bones for about a week and a half, once my ass got used to it, it turned into an all day saddle, despite no padding.
Ride the drops more. Avoid padding.
People who complain about narrow saddles sit up too vertical. Look at what pros use, they can ride narrow saddles 6hrs/day because of proper cycling technique. If you sit up and never use the drops, wider is better and move the seat forward.
I like the sweeping generalizations here and I'm glad your saddle works for you.
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Old 02-10-06 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by DocRay
My specialized toupe was painful on my sit bones for about a week and a half, once my ass got used to it, it turned into an all day saddle, despite no padding.

I wanna try that one too.
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Old 02-10-06 | 03:48 PM
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You might want to consider your biking shorts...Get the most comfortable you can afford and I bet that might help make a difference...
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Old 02-10-06 | 03:52 PM
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Studies can be made to come to whatever conclusion is most beneficial to the person or group doing the study. The only study that's important to me is the study of what used to happen to my C&B and the extreme improvement in bloodflow and coinciding comfort. My own personal study has shown that the part of me that used to be smashed, thereby blocking bloodflow, has been allowed expand naturally. There is a VERY visible difference in the amount of bloodflow going into the region. I don't think I need to elaborate.

I like the sweeping generalizations here and I'm glad your saddle works for you.
I've responded to threads so many times with primary journal references to those statements, from academic research, not any company info. But people are too lazy to do a search so the same threads just get reposted. So do a search before you state your conclusions from a N=1. It's meaningless to anyone else.
Sound like from the condescending tone of that response your problem might be the bug up your ass.
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Old 02-10-06 | 03:53 PM
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Yeah,
I sat on the Specialized Butt-O-Meter and they gave me a saddle to try and I hated it. Sorry, it simply did not work for me.
They make more than one and they all vary in how they feel even though they stick to the same general philosophy.
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Old 02-10-06 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by DocRay
I've responded to threads so many times with primary journal references to those statements, from academic research, not any company info. But people are too lazy to do a search so the same threads just get reposted. So do a search before you state your conclusions from a N=1. It's meaningless to anyone else.
Sound like from the condescending tone of that response your problem might be the bug up your ass.
Your welcome.

You must be correct since you say so. Everyone who uses a cutout saddle must be wrong. We are all experiencing a placebo effect. You're really smart and everyone else is really lazy and dumb.

I could find studies that claim secondhand smoke isn't harmful, global warming is a myth, the Kyoto treaty isn't important and that prove Saddam had and didn't have WMD's all at the same time.

What's important to me is offering a suggestion to someone who is experiencing discomfort. This saddle worked for me. This type of saddle has worked for thousands of other people.

Why do you, by your own admission, constantly feel the need to dispute the overwhelming proof that many, many people experience relief by using this type of saddle? What exactly are you trying to prove? Who are you trying to impress with this scientific study?

Really, I'm serious. Who, what, and why?
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Old 02-10-06 | 06:40 PM
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