hmmm... a cyclist with road rage? simply unheard of! sounds like youre in the wrong forum.

Google NYC + messenger + fatalities. The New York Bike Messenger Association main page alone details lots of maimed (and dead) cyclists in the city, but there's no break-out to show which ones fell victim to clueless motorists and which ones fell victims to themselves.

Luckily no pedestrians appeared to be hurt in that video. The cyclists filmed clearly had no regard for them.

Looks fun. Dangerous, but fun.

wow......I'd just like to see a driver who hits a cyclist actually get what they deserve. Instead of getting off easy every time. Lets see, cyclists who run red lights or ride against traffic DO NOT drag bodies on their bumper for 2 blocks (NYC), kill a cyclist going 80 with a infant in the car (HI), Do not kill a respected community member while text messaging (CO) Blind people (CA). And those are just forum members off the top of my head


From bicycle almanac on bicycleuniverse.info :

Motorists usually at fault. Motorists are exclusively at-fault in 60% of car-bike collisions, vs. 17% for cyclists. (League of American Bicyclists). Drivers are at fault in almost 90% of pedestrian and bicyclist deaths in New York. In over 90% of pedestrian fatalities, the driver is male. (RightOfWay.org, 1999)

Most at-fault motorists who kill cyclists and pedestrians get off the hook. A study by the Silicon Valley Bicycle Coalition shows that three out of four at fault drivers were never even cited for hitting and killing pedestrians. 22% of fatal pedestrian crashes involved hit and run drivers, yet, none of the runaway motorists were found or charged. In New York, 70-92% of drivers were at-fault in killing pedestrians and cyclists, but 74% didn't even get a ticket. (RightOfWay.org, 1999)


I never wish ill on another cyclist no matter what they do. We don't have the responsibility of controlling 1 ton of steel, plastic and fliuds. And not to attack you, but they might not ride with aloha, but lets face it-you aren't sending out too much aloha yourself with those wishes.

I would love to see you get out of your car and use your bike for more than recreation.

just your worthless opinion you @ss.

There just jealous that where not stuck in gridlock.

You're mixing the guilty with innocent here. Cyclists who get killed by text-messaging motorists are not the same as cyclists who get squashed trying to pass traffic full-speed on the right at intersections in the city.

For that matter, the guys in the video could have (and may have -- we don't know how much that race was edited) mowed down any number of pedestrians during that shoot alone.

Cyclists do have rights, including the right not to be represented by the cretins in that video.

Those guys are definately idiots... but that video was quite awesome.

No you don't have to ride like that, or better, it's an extreme example of the necessary aggressive riding to get around the city. I ride those very same streets nearly daily. I ride similarly but without the egregious disregard for others I share the road with as well as my own well being. Minor infractions are the rule. If you don't get what I'm saying, I suppose it's a 'you have to be there' thing.

I totally get what you're saying. It takes a special personality to ride like that. I'll break rules to a point, whatever it takes to get me to work quicker without negatively affecting someone else's commute, ride or safety. All this talk about this making drivers hate cyclists is BS. They already hate cyclists because we may impede their arrival times by a few seconds or because they may have to turn their steering wheels a few degrees to the left to go around us. Say what you want about those dudes, but I bet they felt way more alive than all those sorry bast@rds stuck in traffic.

I spent a Friday night drinking wine and watching those videos. My favorite was the one where they rode on the frozen river.

Those races are called alleycats I believe. They have them here in Austin on occasion I think.

Yeah, they're obviously not your typical cyclist. Just like everyone who drives a car isn't an @ss not everyone on a bike acts like that.

Them's messengers for ya...... woooohooooo!!!
Riding messer style is not for the uninformed nor the feint of heart.
It's definately road riding at it's finest..... closed course? HA! :p

Good point.

that is one of the best alleycat vids I have seen. As irresponsible as it is, I have to admit that is pretty cool. Those guys definitly have seroius sack.

I've often wondered what the median age of the posters on the road bike forums is. My guess just racheted upwards a few notches.

:rolleyes:

Too bad there wasn't any video of them getting hit by a car or run over. And no I am not sorry for being harsh, anyone behaving so recklessly deserves such reward.

That was crazy....Nice post

Well not-so-silent as to not wish harm on others, their reward for such recklessness is a pay cheque, just like you and me. Show some respect. You have no idea the skills it takes to do that job day in and day out and make enough to pay the rent.

You are a very bad man.

Actually I am a retired messenger and a road rider. So I'm the guilty/innocent. I ride legal as often as possible, but it used to be my job to make money by taking those risks.

He's just jealous he'll never be that good.

actually one does have an interaction of some kind with a car. You can't see what happens but I'd guess maybe an arm or a messenger bag clipped a mirror. The cyclist wasn't moving when it happened either, he was waiting to cross the road. THen the car chased him down and tried to run him over 3 times, consequently following him to the next checkpoint where he was too afraid to get out of his car and get his @ss kicked for being an idiot by like 7 cyclists.

Word!!!!!! I remember that one. Chasing down a biker for clipping a mirror, not even wrecking it. I had a cabbie try to push me off the road the other night cuz I tapped his hood with my knuckles carving around him after he cut me off then stopped. tap tap wake up kinda thing not a slap or anything done in anger. They're pretty brave in their cars aren't they? They sure wuss pretty quick when they realize the cage don't scare everyone on a bike. :p

I hate the argument “but it’s my job, I have to do it for the money”

Just because somebody does something dangerous for money doesn't make it any better. Think of a prostitute, very dangerous work and it pays their bills; but it’s not ok. They risk their lives for a couple bucks, over and over.

yeah damn military........