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Old 11-30-08, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by speedemon
...but at the end as I had to choose one and the end I have chosen a Seven.
Yes. Very nice.
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The Alaris is one of Seven's cheaper frames - straight gauge Ti tubing. Beautiful looking frame. I wonder how it compares to my 12 year old Ibis Ti Road which has butted 3.2/2.5 tubing. Interestingly enough, the 3.3 lb. weight of that Alaris is very similar to the butted tubing Ibis, which I believe is something like 3.1 or 3.2 lbs, but for all intensive purposes the same weight. If I ever have to replace the Ibis (God forbid) it would be with a Seven or Lynnskey.
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I am extremely jealous.

Extremely!

That Seven is hawt!!

But look, already it's trying to do something unmentionable to your couch.
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Originally Posted by patentcad
The Alaris is one of Seven's cheaper frames - straight gauge Ti tubing. Beautiful looking frame. I wonder how it compares to my 12 year old Ibis Ti Road which has butted 3.2/2.5 tubing. Interestingly enough, the 3.3 lb. weight of that Alaris is very similar to the butted tubing Ibis, which I believe is something like 3.1 or 3.2 lbs, but for all intensive purposes the same weight. If I ever have to replace the Ibis (God forbid) it would be with a Seven or Lynnskey.
Get one just because. I'm in love with my Axiom.
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Originally Posted by patentcad
The Alaris is one of Seven's cheaper frames - straight gauge Ti tubing. Beautiful looking frame. I wonder how it compares to my 12 year old Ibis Ti Road which has butted 3.2/2.5 tubing. Interestingly enough, the 3.3 lb. weight of that Alaris is very similar to the butted tubing Ibis, which I believe is something like 3.1 or 3.2 lbs, but for all intensive purposes the same weight. If I ever have to replace the Ibis (God forbid) it would be with a Seven or Lynnskey.

patentcad, yes I went with the Alaris strictly because it was a straight gage. Myself I wanted durability over the weight factor because I'm not using it to race as I’m a recreation rider and I am 185-190 lbs. not your idea 130 lbs road rider so that's why I chose the straight gage over the butted strictly on more meat on the tubes.
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The Axiom is considerably pricier isn't it? I'd be looking for something like my Ibis, not so much for racing, but for long training rides. I'll always have a Ti bike, but if the Ibis never caves in, I'll ride it until I'm 100 and keep re-finishing it.
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Originally Posted by speedemon
patentcad, yes I went with the Alaris strictly because it was a straight gage. Myself I wanted durability over the weight factor because I'm not using it to race as I’m a recreation rider and I am 185-190 lbs. not your idea 130 lbs road rider so that's why I chose the straight gage over the butted strictly on more meat on the tubes.
I don't think the butted tubes are less durable: my straight gauge early 90's Merlin spontaneously cracked in two spots in 1996, I left it out with the trash (I was not the original owner, no warranty, the bike didn't own me anything, I paid $1,000 for the frame slightly used and rode it 40K miles). My Ibis Ti Road with the butted tubes now certainly has more miles on it than that and rides like it's brand new. From my discussions with dealers and frame builders, Ti frame failure is extremely rare, but so are Ti frames with 40K+ miles (most cyclists don't accumulate that kind of wear on their bicycles). So you keep riding it, and if it breaks, get another bike. I'll be surprised if my Ibis breaks, and by the time they bury me it will probably have over 100K miles on it.
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Just finished some enhancements to the Seven Axiom I picked up on clearance at my LBS a couple weeks ago.

Before pic:



After pic:



Changes: New outline white decals from Seven, Scotch Brite re-brushed the frame, new Easton Ea90 Aero wheelset from Chainlove, new Conti GP4000 tires, new blue Cinelli bar tape, new PBK carbon cages. And I have a blue leather Selle Italia SLR Gel Flow saddle on the way.

With the on and off crap weather, I've only got about a hundred miles on it, but they've been very pleasant miles indeed.
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Originally Posted by patentcad
The Axiom is considerably pricier isn't it? I'd be looking for something like my Ibis, not so much for racing, but for long training rides. I'll always have a Ti bike, but if the Ibis never caves in, I'll ride it until I'm 100 and keep re-finishing it.
Yes, the Axiom is more $3500 for frame only as oppose to the Alaris which is $2600, for that amount you might want to step up to the Aerios for $3800. Also add in the fork for $550/$600.
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Finally able to post my ti here.
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Came across this randomly on ebay...

A 1979 (or 74?) titanium frame?
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I know someone who is going to selling what I think is that same frame on ebay. One size smaller though.
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here she was till i sold her to pay taxesDSC00421.jpg
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I got my new (yes it was a brand new bike) Seven Ti Alaris with full Ultegra group and Rolf wheel for $2,800 complete on eBay - just about the retail price of the frame alone It was from an LBS in NC that sells stuff on eBay. It arrived in perfect brand new condition completely tuned ready to ride !

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Yes, the Axiom is more $3500 for frame only as oppose to the Alaris which is $2600, for that amount you might want to step up to the Aerios for $3800. Also add in the fork for $550/$600.
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Oh - and that included a carbon fork !!!
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Another one

I'm posting my personal Destiny now with white hoods with 50mm carbon clinchers and currently being used as my training bike. It's a little bit excessive for a training bike, but the carbon clinchers have been sitting there looking very lonely so I thought, might as well....

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I dig the graphix on those wheels. Nice and understated.
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Originally Posted by mpower
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Outstanding pic. Great looking bike..great backdrop. Beats the standard white garage door
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Originally Posted by soulbike
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And here is another customer's bike, with an extended seatpost, it's not something we do or see everyday:



Blatant self promotion over.
I like the extended seat tube... I have a Ti post on my Ritchey BreakAway and it almost looks seamless in this pic.
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Here is my custom Ti bike
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Just got it, still deciding what to build it up with.
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Here is my custom Ti bike
Tell us a little about the Habanero.
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Originally Posted by Gomez308
Tell us a little about the Habanero.
I researched quite a while ( at least while I was waiting to save up $$)
Mark Hickey the frame designer has some really interesting info on his site www.habcycles.com, about the tubes he uses and why...
It was pretty interesting reading his stuff after looking at Lynskey and some others...
Also his pricing is so good I figured I couldnt go wrong.
The welds are beautiful...
He took the measurements I gave him from my Trek Pilot, some a fitter had done, and I took pictures...
Also told him what I was looking for in performance, comfort etc...
It looks wierd...the head tube is huge...and the top tube length is shorter than my trek, but he was right on the money...it fits great...and handles great...downhill is like riding on rails...very smooth...I am very happy..I sit a bit higher...but my back doesnt hurt after long climbs...
I had him add fender mounts just in case..put Stainless set screws in there to protect the holes...
also the water bottle screws are cut into the Ti, no rivets to loosen up...
He also put the seat tube cage low for a better center of gravity...
I also decided to have the STI stops on the head tube...I like that look better...
Over all he was very accomadating....

I went for as much Ti as I could afford...
So Kings Ti bottle cages, even Ti pulley wheels...
Dura-Ace triple...
Weighs in a hair under 18lbs...the large head tube added some weight as there were only a couple of forks that would work...I wanted the Wound-up, it would have looked awesome, but the were 4 weeks for an order...so I got the Alpha...

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