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14max 05-12-06 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by barba
What exactly did you not like about the Rom?

The Rom was great. Honest. But I recently decided to go with a Campagnolo group and knew it'd be more of a hassle to strip the Rom and build it up again with different components. Not only would it cost a lot to do that but I would get very little on resale of the 105 group that was on it. So, I decided to scrap the Romulus and start over. It seemed logical at the time...

jburnsdo 05-14-06 08:56 PM

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Habenero. I don't have any personal experience with them, but I have heard great things, the price is right, and hey, it's Ti!
http://www.habcycles.com/

14max 05-14-06 09:08 PM


Originally Posted by jburnsdo
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Habenero. I don't have any personal experience with them, but I have heard great things, the price is right, and hey, it's Ti!
http://www.habcycles.com/

I did check them out this weekend. Very tempting. I still think I'm going with the Cinelli. I've mulled over all the different bikes I could possibly buy and this one keeps coming back to the front of the line. Time to pull the trigger...

slvoid 05-14-06 09:23 PM

Wait wait... what about a Pegoretti? Wait... what about a vanilla...
http://www.vanillabicycles.com/bikes...ke_d/lrg/3.jpg
http://www.vanillabicycles.com/bikes...ke_a/lrg/5.jpg
http://www.vanillabicycles.com/bikes...ke_d/lrg/2.jpg
http://www.vanillabicycles.com/bikes...ke_c/lrg/3.jpg
Mmmm...

Serpico 05-14-06 09:45 PM

damn, bbattle is throwing up some pretty sweet pics

check this out Cycles Tournesol

another Hampsten collaboration--very cool stuff

linus 05-14-06 11:46 PM

I heard that they have a long waiting list. Around 6month or so, but they are beautiful bikes.

ivan_yulaev 05-15-06 01:20 AM


Originally Posted by 14max
Okay. Given my height (6'3") and weight (195) what might work for me?

I see a Habby in your future...

But seriously, do give them a look. They're a little less expensive than what you're looking for, and don't have all the pretty stuff (lugs, integrated headsets, curved seatstays, etc). But, from the functional perspective, they're awesome. The frame might not look pretty, but it is stiff as hell while still giving a great ride.

ivan_yulaev 05-15-06 01:21 AM


Originally Posted by linus
I heard that they have a long waiting list. Around 6month or so, but they are beautiful bikes.

Multiply that six months by four, and that's the real waiting list. (from what I hear)

But, if you're not in a hurry, they are soooo pretty...

jburnsdo 05-15-06 05:30 AM

We're probably making this too difficult for you. I think the cinelli will be a great fit and be a smooth ride given your size. go for it--you won't be dissappointed. just don't forget to post pics and a ride report or you'll have a BF riot on your hands.

14max 05-15-06 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by jburnsdo
We're probably making this too difficult for you. I think the cinelli will be a great fit and be a smooth ride given your size. go for it--you won't be dissappointed. just don't forget to post pics and a ride report or you'll have a BF riot on your hands.

Now that's the kind of comment I was waiting for. No more decision making, no more creeping 'what if' thoughts rolling around the grey matter. Just a nice push in the direction I was heading in the first place. That settles it. I'm talking to Tom at GVH today to get things rolling...

cs1 05-15-06 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by Jakey
My vote is for steel...but I am severely biased.

+1

Tim

14max 05-15-06 10:25 AM

Update: Order was placed with GVH Bikes this morning @ 11AM CST. To my surprise the bike was already in the system to be built and Tom was just waiting for me to give him the greenlight. Payment has been made (ugh) and it's being built today and will be ready to ship tomorrow. Tom has been really great to deal with and very patient. He's going to try to take some pictures for me as the bike is being built as well which is pretty damn cool of him. Again, the specifications are:

Frame - Cinelli Super Corsa
Fork - Cinelli Super Corsa
Rims - Mavic Open Pro, 32h
Hubs - Campagnolo Centaur, 32h
Spokes - Wheelsmith, 14/15
Tires - Continental GP 4Season, 28c
Pedals - Look Keo Classic
Crank - Campagnolo Centaur CT, 50/34
Chain - Campagnolo Chorus Ultra Narrow
Rear Cogs - Campagnolo Centaur, 12-25
Bottom Bracket - Campagnolo Centaur
Front Derailleur - Campagnolo Centaur CT
Rear Derailleur - Campagnolo Centaur (Medium)
Shifters - Campagnolo Centaur
Handlebars - Cinelli 66, 42cm
Stem - Cinelli X/A, 125mm
Headset - Campagnolo Chorus
Brakeset - Campagnolo Centaur
Brakelevers - Campagnolo Centaur
Saddle - Selle San Marco Concor
Seat Post - Campagnolo Centaur, 27.2mm
Color - China Blue
Size - 61cm

Chef23 05-15-06 10:45 AM

Congrats I am sure you will love it.

14max 05-15-06 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by Chef23
Congrats I am sure you will love it.

That's my hope. I really look forward to taking it out on it's initial ride. I'll be sure to post pics when it gets to me...

BeeTL 05-15-06 02:59 PM

Congratulations (again)!

Please post LOTS of pics when you get it. :)

It's funny, I was thinking a 125 stem seemed VERY long until I realized it's a 61. A 100 stem on my 50 is about the same ratio of stem to top tube length (20%).

14max 05-15-06 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by BeeTL
Congratulations (again)!

Please post LOTS of pics when you get it. :)

It's funny, I was thinking a 125 stem seemed VERY long until I realized it's a 61. 110 on my 50 is about the same ratio (20%).

Thanks, B. Coming to this point was more of a challenge than I thought it would be. Either way I'm glad I pulled the trigger and had a lot of help deciding in the process.

I plan on taking quite a few pictures. I'm hoping the guys at GVH were able to do the same as it was being built.

As far as the stem length, with the top tube (58cm) it is the same length of my Romulus (58.5cm top tube + 12cm stem) so it should work out well for me...

ViperZ 05-15-06 09:22 PM

Congats! Thats is going to be beautiful Bike!

14max 05-16-06 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by ViperZ
Congats! Thats is going to be beautiful Bike!

Agreed. I almost screwed things up last night. In a moment of stupidity I emailed Tom to see if I could upgrade the Mavic OP/Centaur wheels to Campagnolo Protons. I received a message from him this morning saying that I could but he needed to know right away since it was shipping today. I came to my senses and told him to leave the bike with the Mavics...

531Aussie 05-16-06 10:13 PM

I forgot to post this last week :)
More options.....


The Basso Viper is steel, but I’m not sure of the quality:
http://www.bassobikes.com/en/product...htype=&SESSID=

Bianchi steel: USA only?
http://www.bianchiusa.com/06_imola.html

The Cinelli Supercorsa is steel:
http://www.cinelli.it/scripts/prodot...=EN&IdBici=319

The Carrera Sheild is steel:
http://www.carrera-podium.it/eng/cat...dwb/index.html

Casati Lasar
http://www.ciclicasati.it/EN/modelli_acciaio.htm

The Ciocc De Luxe is steel with a carbon rear
http://www.ciocc.it/ciocc-eng/catalo...carbon-eng.htm

The Colnago Master B-Stay is steel with a carbon rear
http://www.colnagonews.com/2006/bike/index.html

The Coppi Genius and Neuron:
http://www.bullteksports.com/miva/me...ory_Code=Coppi

The De Rosa Corum and Neo Primato:
http://www.derosanews.com/derosa/mod...howbike&bid=13
http://www.derosanews.com/derosa/mod...howbike&bid=14

The Daccordi Fibra4Steel and Profidea are both steel:
http://www.daccordi-cicli.com/daccordi_eg/prodotti.htm

The Fondriest Status is steel
http://www.fondriestbici.com/pubblic...us_veloce.html

The Gios Compact Pro is steel
http://www.gios.it/2005/eng/prima.php?page=pro-frame


LeMond has a few steels
http://www.lemondbikes.com/2006_bikes/classics.shtml


The Olmo Mecury is steel:
http://www.olmo.it/newsite/home.php?lang=lng_2

The Orbea Spirit and Spirit Carbon are both steel
http://www.orbea-usa.com/fly.aspx?mI...duct&taxId=463

http://www.pegoretticicli.com/

Omega Nucleus
http://www.omegacycleworks.com/nucleus.htm

The Pinarello Opera is steel with a carbon rear

The Salsa La Raza
http://www.salsacycles.com/frames_06LaRaza.html

Serotta have a few steels
http://www.serotta.com/pages/cda.html

Most Scapin frames are steel:
http://www.scapin.com/

The Specialized Allez Cro-Mo
http://www.specialized.com/bc/SBCBkM...0085&spid=9360

Tommasini make a few steels:
http://www.tommasini.com/eng/prodotti.html

Torelli, Guerciotti, Mondonico
http://www.torelli.com/torelli/torelli.html

The Viner Sidus
http://www.viner.it/english/c_sidus.htm


I bought meself one of these 18 months ago, and it's great :)

http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/20...ike_ch1825.jpg
2004 cervelo superprodigy


In case i've missed any, here's a list of just about every bike company
http://www.mikebentley.com/bike/bikemfg.htm

Wurm 05-17-06 04:59 AM


Originally Posted by 531Aussie
I forgot to post this last week :)
More options.....



The Specialized Allez Cro-Mo
http://www.specialized.com/bc/SBCBkM...0085&spid=9360

I've heard Specialized stopped offering the Allez in steel. Not that they should have!

rickowensis 11-04-07 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by fmw (Post 2512871)
I ride both steel and titanium. The bikes are quite different but mostly because of geometry. Titanium is probably a better investment for the long haul.

Beautiful bikes Fred. I especially like the lugged Garlatti.


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