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Originally Posted by pigmode
There was a thread recently, but I didn't really go through it. Seems like people are happy with theirs. For my own part, with a budget of 2k, I'd be looking at a Gunnar or perhaps a Cannondale. Before I bought my Nag, a Cannondale was the 1st and only bike I took out on a test ride. I also like what Giant and Specialized has to offer.
I guess this is beyond your budget right? That would be the sweetest. |
Still undecided huh...
How about Steeltanium? |
Originally Posted by BeeTL
Not necessarily...I got my '05 Fierte with full Ultegra for $2k...
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Originally Posted by slvoid
Still undecided huh...
How about Steeltanium? |
The QS2 would make a nice modern day bike, however it does not hold the same appeal to me as a Cinelli SC or Ti Litespeed.
Out of the choices you have presented, forgoing the Ti, as you have ruled that out it's between the QS2 or the Cinelli SC, I'd build the Cinelli. It's a bike that will elicit Ooohs and Ahhhs much more readily than a no name carbon frame. Now if that does not matter to you and you want a more advanced modern day frame, the QS2 would be the better choice... Am I helping any? :lol: Good thing I don't have to make the decision ;) |
Originally Posted by ViperZ
Am I helping any? :lol: Good thing I don't have to make the decision ;)
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So you didn't go with the Cinelli? Frankly, I'm a bit relieved. I actually think you'd be a bit miffed at the weight and level of finish on those frames - they're not the 'Italian Art' people think they are, and not something you'd think was as nice as your Rom. "Workmanlike" as pigmode said isn't a bad way to describe it, but not in the way he intended, if you know what I mean.
You're actually in a really difficult position. It's very hard to top Riv and what they do - the quality of their production bikes are actually very good - so to go from that to a lugged 'racing' bike is actually a bit step up. In the big sizes, it's actually going to be tough to get a nice, light(ish) lugged frame for under 2k and hovering around 4lbs, whereas a quality TIG frame and forks, you can get custom at that weight and half the price. Granted, I'm not well researched in the budget lightweight lugged field, so there might be some options out there that I'm not aware of, but the cheapest lugged frame I'd actually want to race on is USD1925 which is USD575 less than our Tephra S6 f/f/hs package, but the same price as our Ti, so you can see the problem there. Does anyone know of any other lugged frames that fit 14maxes needs? Originally I was thinking Torelli, but they're boat-anchors too. Maybe there's a bargain to be had on eBay? Even if you do get a heavy frame, with the money you saved going 2nd hand, you can spend on lighter parts (nice wheels is a good place to start) which might achieve your goals? EG: http://cgi.ebay.com/bike-frame-ciocc...QQcmdZViewItem |
Originally Posted by Thylacine
"Workmanlike" as pigmode said isn't a bad way to describe it, but not in the way he intended, if you know what I mean.
Actually I meant it pretty literally. ;) Can't you build him a ti frame within his budget? He needs help. |
If he had 4k to spend on the bike, sure. I sent in what I thought was a killer deal, but no lugs, so no love there for me.
I'm telling ya, eBay is the solution. Anyway, fark, what am I doing? I have a Ti frame to design for a customer, and here I am browsing ebay and bikeforums and drinking coffee. *slaps wrist* |
Have ridden extensively and owned: steel, alu and ti.
Got rid of Merlin Extralight and got a custom carbon fiber Zona siingle. A happy c/f rider! |
Originally Posted by CycleFreakLS
Rode steel for 20+ years; ride Ti now ... still own the trusty Medici, but would never go back to riding steel.
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Originally Posted by Thylacine
14Max, did you ask them how heavy that Cinelli is going to be? In our size, don't be suprised if that frame is pushing 5lbs.
In my book, (of which there is only one copy) ;) , order of importance is: #1- Frame geometry #2- Tube shape & material, equal importance #3- Builder. Assuming a "mass-market" frame is welded correctly, I think a big-name boutique frame-builder's "black magic" can largely be taken out of the equation. You may commence flaming, but that's my story and I'm sticking to it! :) |
Originally Posted by 14max
I'm selling my Romulus to purchase a racier rig and was wanting some opinions. The main reason for selling is due to the fact that I decided to run Campagnolo. Specifically, I plan on going with a full Centaur group. I also wanted a bit quicker handling than my Romulus allows so I was going to plan on slightly more upright geometry (73*/73*) and shorter chainstays (between 40.5 and 42.5cm)/wheelbase. For steel I was looking at the Cinelli Super Corsa that GVH has on special, a Gios Compact or, possibly, a Heron Rally. I was also considering a Litespeed Tuscany as well. As I've only test ridden Ti but never owned I'd like those longtime owners of titanium to chime in with their opinions.
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Originally Posted by 14max
It's a 61cm and it hasn't been sold yet...
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The Ebisu bike sounds a lot like a Rivendell
http://www.jitensha.com/eng/aboutframes_e.html Hampsten has both steel and titanium bikes Titanio - $2450 http://www.hampsten.com/images/model...i_whole_lg.jpg Cinghiale Pro Steel - $2000 http://www.hampsten.com/images/model...nghiale_lg.jpg |
Originally Posted by 14max
I'd love to do that but my budget is limited. If I had my druthers I'd just schedule an appointment with the guys at Waterford, drive to Wisconsin, and get a full fitting done. As it is I have to go by experience and what has worked for me in the past...
http://www.cronometro.com/biodynamicfittings.htm -murray |
Originally Posted by bbattle
The Ebisu bike sounds a lot like a Rivendell
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If you only have one bike and you intend to keep it for a very long time the only choice is steel.
It's also one of the harder one's to find these days so you have to go to your local custom frame maker. |
Ravello custom lugged steel $900-1100 for the frame
http://www.ravellobikes.com/fleur_de...hole_frame.JPG http://www.ravellobikes.com/fullblackravello.JPG |
Originally Posted by Thylacine
So you didn't go with the Cinelli? Frankly, I'm a bit relieved. I actually think you'd be a bit miffed at the weight and level of finish on those frames - they're not the 'Italian Art' people think they are, and not something you'd think was as nice as your Rom. "Workmanlike" as pigmode said isn't a bad way to describe it, but not in the way he intended, if you know what I mean.
Originally Posted by Thylacine
You're actually in a really difficult position. It's very hard to top Riv and what they do - the quality of their production bikes are actually very good - so to go from that to a lugged 'racing' bike is actually a bit step up.
In the big sizes, it's actually going to be tough to get a nice, light(ish) lugged frame for under 2k and hovering around 4lbs, whereas a quality TIG frame and forks, you can get custom at that weight and half the price.
Originally Posted by Thylacine
Does anyone know of any other lugged frames that fit 14maxes needs? Originally I was thinking Torelli, but they're boat-anchors too. Maybe there's a bargain to be had on eBay? Even if you do get a heavy frame, with the money you saved going 2nd hand, you can spend on lighter parts (nice wheels is a good place to start) which might achieve your goals?
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Originally Posted by bbattle
Ravello custom lugged steel $900-1100 for the frame
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Check out Rich Adams bikes at bicycleframes.com in your price range.
http://www.bicycleframes.com/images/.../culhane_1.jpg http://www.bicycleframes.com/images/.../culhane_5.jpg Lots of great bike pr0n here at Peter Mooney Cycles. Probably out of your price range, though. http://www.peter-mooney.com/gall.htm http://www.peter-mooney.com/images/gallery/35_lg.jpg http://www.peter-mooney.com/images/gallery/64_lg.jpg http://www.peter-mooney.com/images/gallery/65_lg.jpg |
Lyon sport road frames starting at under $800(fillet brazed) also does lugged.
http://www.lyonsport.com/images/nervexroad.jpg http://www.lyonsport.com/web/contact.html |
Originally Posted by bbattle
Check out Rich Adams bikes at bicycleframes.com in your price range.
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What exactly did you not like about the Rom?
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