oneradtec

Yall...

What do you think? Fully equipped Ultegra 10 machine. 19lbs. Lots of carbon. Under $1200. Race ready!
https://www.pricepoint.com/detail/143...a-10-Speed.htm

Eatadonut

pricepoint shill.

Looks like a pretty good deal, not sure about those wheels.

pelotonracer

I don't see any carbon... Oh, are you talking about those seatstays? You can find them on bikes well sub-$1000. They don't do anything anyways...

HAHAHAHAHA- Italian? Hardly.

And those wheels would be a b*tch to true.

Zinn-X

i'm new at this but i thought italian bikes use campy??

pelotonracer

double post

pelotonracer

1. It's not Italian

2. Italian bikes SHOULD use Campy, but many commit sacrilege and put shimaNO on it, like THIS:

oneradtec

Who gives a crap if it is Italian or not? Who gives a crap what sticker they put on the downtube? Butted aluminum is butted aluminum....yatayatayatayata.

Italian does not add value to anything. They don't even make the best bike frames anymore(probably not the best components either...but that debate is for another thread). Perhaps you are lost in the 1980's?
I have a lugged steel Ciocc I'll sell you...complete with columbus tubing.

I'm only highlighting the fact that you have here a light butted aluminum frame and a full ultegra drivetrain(not a mix like other bikes in this price range), nearly as good as Dura Ace...at an acceptable price if you can get over the fact that the brand is generic. I personally don't care because stickers don't make you go faster or train harder.

That said...I agree that the wheels probably suck....and might need to be upgraded.

alanbikehouston

ONeradtec is correct. All aluminum frames are identical in weight, ride quality, durability, and come with identical warranties and warranty service. The aluminum frames used at the Tour de France are made in the same factory that makes aluminum frame bikes for Wal-Mart.

And, while we are saving big money, remember that the only difference between a Yugo and a Mercedes is the decal on the grill. Both are made from steel, and both are made in Europe. Why pay $50,000 extra for a decal?

the beef

Hahah. Indeed.

Eatadonut

A good point. But if you offered me a Yugo with a Mercedes engine and drivetrain for $10000, you have to decide if the decal and the frame are worth another 40k.

not2fast

While I agree with your statement on labels, I am not sure I agree with your statement that all aluminum bikes come from one factory.

A guy in a LBS recently told me there are only two factories int he world that make carbon frames. HUH?

So, am I supposed to believe that while every year thousands upon thousands of aluminum bikes are being produced, only one factory is making them?

Does this mean that business entreprenuers all over the world have said, "Heck, lets not open a factory, let's just let Factory X make all bikes. We dont want any of that money."

Man, you guys are smarter than I. But i know there are lots of plants manufacturing cars. Hundreds of paper mills. etc, etc,

But there is only one factory making aluminum or carbon frames??

alanbikehouston

Uh...sometimes I've been known to joke...and the folks who come on the Forums day after day, trying to "shill" low-end bikes by claiming that all bikes come from one factory in China are also joking, or are jokes.

The folks at Trek will be happy to take you on a tour of their factory in Wisconsin, and the folks at Cannondale also operate a large factory here in the USA. And, the Dutch, the Germans, the French, the Italians, and the Spanish have all been known to build a bike or two....including most of the bikes in this year's Tour de France.

not2fast

I am riding a Trek 1200 I bought 18 years ago. Have been thinking about buying a carbon bike, and love the Madones.

But I do wonder if these bikes are simply overpriced?