Asians in the Tour De France?
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Originally Posted by PrfectHair4ever
*edit* hld up..thats junks motorized, look at his "clipon" bars.
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If you HAD to ride a bike to get around because you couldn't afford a car, would you really want to spend an additional 6 hours busting your ass to race it too? Prob. not. And I'm asian so I can speak with some authority. lol
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Originally Posted by rapidcarbon
because Asians can't afford EPO
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If you HAD to ride a bike to get around because you couldn't afford a car, would you really want to spend an additional 6 hours busting your ass to race it too? Prob. not. And I'm asian so I can speak with some authority. lol
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Originally Posted by kuan
Just shows your ignorance. EPO is 1/50th the price in Bangkok.
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Originally Posted by PrfectHair4ever
Originally Posted by kuan
Just shows your ignorance. EPO is 1/50th the price in Bangkok.
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Originally Posted by shabbasuraj
actually, there are many "asians" in the tour, I'd say more than 50%, like Giant, Cervelo, BMC, Orbea, Specialized, etc
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Originally Posted by pelotonracer
for the prospect of more money? yep...
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You don't see any blacks in cycling either. Cycling is predominantly a white sport. The high cost of racing bikes and racing in general makes access to the sport impossible for most kids. With the unique case here or there, you won't see any inner city kids gravitating to cycling anytime soon.
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when i bike, i do occasionally see blacks in tights and jerseys biking on nice road bikes, with road shoes too and cycle comp, there are some out there.
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Originally Posted by rapidcarbon
because Asians can't afford EPO
EPO is made from Chinese Hamster Ovaries, how funny is that!!
and no, im not making this up. google it if you don't believe the smooth
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It's not the high price of equipment, its the high level of suffering that determines one's ability to be a pro.
Also, this rich white yuppie phenomenon of cycling in the US is not how the pro peleton was or is made. European Pro cyclists are a lot like other pro athletes in this country. Leaving school early to make money to support the family. Not the most intellectual sorts, although there will always be some, but they come from blue collar backgrounds, Some never finished highschool, their marketable skill is being able to endure extreme discomfrot for hours on end. It's no wonder the doping is an option.
Virenque said if he didn't make it as a pro, he would have to go back to being an electrician. In the off season, Indurain would work on his fathers farm. Even the early tour riders sought fame and fortune, and a way out of the mines and machine shops they worked in.
Jonathon Vaughters wrote a good article about the shock his U-23 riders face when they get to Europe, In the US, they are used to sunday afternoon crits, 45 minutes plus 3 laps during jazzfest or the seafood festival. The first race of the European Calender that TIAA hits is the Tour of Normandy, A week long stage race in the freezing rain. That seperates the men from the boys very quickly, and some realize that college in southern california might be a better path for them.
So yes, everyone around the world rides bikes, and some have the potential or desire to be a pro. But the history and culture of your region, and most importantly the toughness, or lack thereof, in your character are driving factors as well. The sport is a meatgrinder, remember that.
Also, this rich white yuppie phenomenon of cycling in the US is not how the pro peleton was or is made. European Pro cyclists are a lot like other pro athletes in this country. Leaving school early to make money to support the family. Not the most intellectual sorts, although there will always be some, but they come from blue collar backgrounds, Some never finished highschool, their marketable skill is being able to endure extreme discomfrot for hours on end. It's no wonder the doping is an option.
Virenque said if he didn't make it as a pro, he would have to go back to being an electrician. In the off season, Indurain would work on his fathers farm. Even the early tour riders sought fame and fortune, and a way out of the mines and machine shops they worked in.
Jonathon Vaughters wrote a good article about the shock his U-23 riders face when they get to Europe, In the US, they are used to sunday afternoon crits, 45 minutes plus 3 laps during jazzfest or the seafood festival. The first race of the European Calender that TIAA hits is the Tour of Normandy, A week long stage race in the freezing rain. That seperates the men from the boys very quickly, and some realize that college in southern california might be a better path for them.
So yes, everyone around the world rides bikes, and some have the potential or desire to be a pro. But the history and culture of your region, and most importantly the toughness, or lack thereof, in your character are driving factors as well. The sport is a meatgrinder, remember that.
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Also, this rich white yuppie phenomenon of cycling in the US is not how the pro peleton was or is made. European Pro cyclists are a lot like other pro athletes in this country. Leaving school early to make money to support the family. Not the most intellectual sorts, although there will always be some, but they come from blue collar backgrounds, Some never finished highschool, their marketable skill is being able to endure extreme discomfrot for hours on end. It's no wonder the doping is an option.
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Here is a story about the Asian-owned Astana team. They were wrongly kicked out of the Tour de France this year. The team has hired 3 more Asian riders, including their well known star, and will be racing in the HEW Cyclassics in Hamburg this weekend.
https://www.velonews.com/race/int/articles/10606.0.html
https://www.velonews.com/race/int/articles/10606.0.html
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Originally Posted by bellweatherman
With the unique case here or there, you won't see any inner city kids gravitating to cycling anytime soon.
Where ever you are from, stay there. The rest of us are trying to get away from attitudes like that.
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Originally Posted by koffee brown
Well, Vinokourov is Asian, and he's a damn good cyclist. They are out there, just few and far between, unfortunately.
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I don't think it's appropriate for a moderator that censors a thread to the point of deleting it (and then lies about moving it to foo), based only on nationality, to be discussing someones nationality on a road cycling forum.
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Originally Posted by johnny99
Here is a story about the Asian-owned Astana team. They were wrongly kicked out of the Tour de France this year. The team has hired 3 more Asian riders, including their well known star, and will be racing in the HEW Cyclassics in Hamburg this weekend.
https://www.velonews.com/race/int/articles/10606.0.html
https://www.velonews.com/race/int/articles/10606.0.html
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it's a white dominated sport, oppression.
What if there was a Kenyan cycling team?
What if there was a Kenyan cycling team?
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Originally Posted by Smoothie104
EPO is made from Chinese Hamster Ovaries, how funny is that!!
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What part of Russia is he from? The western part of Russia (Moscow, St. Petersburg, etc.) is in Europe. Only the eastern part of Russia is in Asia.
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I am Korean, Strong Body, good balance, and great endurance. I've only biked for 3 months with my moutain bike over 1100 miles, I can catch up with guys who has been riding long time with road bike on the hill with my no clip on pedals. I am either going to get Lemond Chambery 2006, or Trek 5200, tomorrow. I am going to train hard and hard, because right now biking is my passion. WE'll see how far i go with this biking.
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Originally Posted by SeanKimStyle
I am Korean, Strong Body, good balance, and great endurance. I've only biked for 3 months with my moutain bike over 1100 miles, I can catch up with guys who has been riding long time with road bike on the hill with my no clip on pedals. I am either going to get Lemond Chambery 2006, or Trek 5200, tomorrow. I am going to train hard and hard, because right now biking is my passion. WE'll see how far i go with this biking.
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Originally Posted by bellweatherman
With the unique case here or there, you won't see any inner city kids gravitating to cycling anytime soon.