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Old 07-31-06, 11:28 AM
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That was a typo m**********r, what the f*** is "lind"??

Originally Posted by Keith99
I don't play grammer cop often. But you pointed out you are Asian and not of the smart rich group and therefore often get kicked to the other end of the spectrum.

You said:

"blacks and latinos are the dominate majorities of the poorer neighborhoods."

The correct word is dominant. It is easy to pick up the misuse, there are disturbingly many who are native English speakers who make the same mistake. (And often come off like thay know everything).

It also is the lind of mistake that seems out of place coming from you, slvoid. At least to my 'ears' it is the mistake of your group b (or more correctly the white version thereof) and does not fit my image of you at all. Thus worth pointing out. I rarely bother pointing out little errors of fools.
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Originally Posted by smellygary
Would you like an English name? I can give you one, if you'd like!
I'd like to see you sneak that pass the censor!
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About once a year, some starts this type of thread, with typical responses.
I really don't know why someone would even start such threads.
The asian cycling scene is thriving, and is likely already bigger than US cycling.
Velodrome racing is a big sport in Japan, several NA riders go there to make big bucks.
I'm sure some KKK types would never have guessed a Chinese player would be in the NBA.
This guy is short and non-athletic.


Cold spring Harbor research centre used to do eugenic testing in the 20-30s. They would give IQ tests to immigrants at Ellis Island, in english. They concluded, with statistical data that Italians and Poles were mentally ******** due to genetics.
Some parts of the US have not really advanced from that point.

If I were you guys, I would not cite Major Taylor as an example, he was almost choked to death by white-supremists at a US race and had to race in europe after that for his own safety.
 
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Doc, I'm not going to argue with the gist of what you're saying, but puh-lease spare me with the holier than thou 'the US is racist and we're not' Candian BS.

We're not the only North Americans with dirty hands.

Just sayin'



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About once a year, some starts this type of thread, with typical responses.
I really don't know why someone would even start such threads.
The asian cycling scene is thriving, and is likely already bigger than US cycling.
Velodrome racing is a big sport in Japan, several NA riders go there to make big bucks.
I'm sure some KKK types would never have guessed a Chinese player would be in the NBA.
This guy is short and non-athletic.


Cold spring Harbor research centre used to do eugenic testing in the 20-30s. They would give IQ tests to immigrants at Ellis Island, in english. They concluded, with statistical data that Italians and Poles were mentally ******** due to genetics.
Some parts of the US have not really advanced from that point.

If I were you guys, I would not cite Major Taylor as an example, he was almost choked to death by white-supremists at a US race and had to race in europe after that for his own safety.
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There are parts of the US where it is not safe for an African-American to travel alone, or god-forbid have an inter-racial marriage, in 2006.
There isn't even tolerance for *****exuals in the US.

I only know from my experience in North Carolina where I lived, where I experienced open racism for dating a woman with darker skin (she was from India). I had never experienced anything like that in Canada, but I'm sure Alberta has its stories.
 
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Originally Posted by CarreraGT612hp
Hey Hey Hey, I'm Chinese. I'm 14. I have a Bianchi Veloce. I'm doing my first race in October. One day I'll be the first Asian to race in the Tour, and in that same tour, I'll be the winner. Lol, those are my hopes.
You have a fan already. Not because you are asian. But because you are 14 and you have a goal to achieve a monumental achievement. Go for it!!!!!! Be sure to sign a jersey for me when you do. Just promise us you won't dope it up to win.
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Originally Posted by DocRay
There are parts of the US where it is not safe for an African-American to travel alone, or god-forbid have an inter-racial marriage, in 2006.
There isn't even tolerance for *****exuals in the US.

I only know from my experience in North Carolina where I lived, where I experienced open racism for dating a woman with darker skin (she was from India). I had never experienced anything like that in Canada, but I'm sure Alberta has its stories.
What???? I am AA and I don't fear traveling anywhere in the US. I am not going to go Wanda just anybodies driveway in AL or TN but I travel the country for work and I don't worry about it at all. I try not to stand out or make a big deal anywhere I go. There are idiots anywhere and everywhere.....I don't sweat it. You just ignore them and move on. Now in Germany...I won't be traveling there anytime soon or Russia..... But for official business I don't have a problem going anywhere.

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If I were you guys, I would not cite Major Taylor as an example, he was almost choked to death by white-supremists at a US race and had to race in europe after that for his own safety.
LOL!!! Why the hell not? Just because some ignoramous decided to assault the guy we should not cite his accomplishment? Look the point is that he did something outside of the norm for his race. The same would apply to any race or ethnicity. You can do what you want if you believe and have the hunger for it. His example is that no matter what the cost whether it is hard training or enduring assault the goal is what mattered. Lance Armstrong was spit on and assaulted by the German fans....should we not cite him as an example. If every black American used your logic (and many do) then we wouldn't have Colin Powell, Jackie Robinson, Arthur Ashe, Dr Carver, MLK.....etc. These people demonstrated that you can do it if you dream it and work hard for it. For crying out loud we would still be a colony of England if we used that logic.
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To add to this

I lived in Okinawa japan for 13 months and did A LOT of riding

during that whole time, I only ran into 1 rider, ONE rider on the road that seemed to be local. The catch is that he did not seem to be a native okinawan much less japanese. There was a language barrier so I couldnt get any information from him.

Even asking at the local bike shops, apparently there was only one organized ride on the island that would happen irregularly and it was just a touring ride with less than a dozen riders.

I did hear of track type racing (not in an actual track) in a park in Naha but never checked it out

I later went to sasebo japan and nagasaki for 8 days and while I didnt see any riders on the road, I visited a keirin which was an incredible experience. From what I gathered though, a keirin rider isnt exactly held in high esteem among the upper class in japan.

My point is, while there are japanese cyclists (speaking as far as places ive visited for an extended period of time) its definately not mainstream as far as I could tell.

Also, when people say asian I believe they commonly (atleast in the US) mean people of mongol stock (that means folks with epicanthic folds), not slavic peoples who originated in europe like vinokourov or arabs, etc
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Originally Posted by DocRay
There are parts of the US where it is not safe for an African-American to travel alone, or god-forbid have an inter-racial marriage, in 2006.
There isn't even tolerance for *****exuals in the US.

I only know from my experience in North Carolina where I lived, where I experienced open racism for dating a woman with darker skin (she was from India). I had never experienced anything like that in Canada, but I'm sure Alberta has its stories.
quit being a ******. there's crap like that in every corner of the world. my white ass isn't going to go walking through the ****ty neighborhoods is detroit any time soon. nor will i walk through the slums of san juan.
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Originally Posted by DocRay
There are parts of the US where it is not safe for an African-American to travel alone, or god-forbid have an inter-racial marriage, in 2006.
There isn't even tolerance for *****exuals in the US.

I only know from my experience in North Carolina where I lived, where I experienced open racism for dating a woman with darker skin (she was from India). I had never experienced anything like that in Canada, but I'm sure Alberta has its stories.

Right on the money. And anybody that says otherwise is being foolish. The tri-state area up their in Tennessee and the Carolinas have some of the most redneck hicks (like smellygary) you'll ever come across. I'm not surprised that you experienced open racism there. They seem to be mostly ok with blacks, but the real hate is towards hispanics and asians.
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Originally Posted by SaintAndrew
.... there's crap like that in every corner of the world. my white ass isn't going to go walking through the ****ty neighborhoods is detroit any time soon. nor will i walk through the slums of san juan.
Hmmmm. I can't think of anywhere in the continent that I live on that I would feel unsafe going for a walk. However, I would avoid places where you might find a few boisterous drunks usually late at night, but some of these are very middle class areas anyway.
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Originally Posted by miyata610
Hmmmm. I can't think of anywhere in the continent that I live on that I would feel unsafe going for a walk. However, I would avoid places where you might find a few boisterous drunks usually late at night, but some of these are very middle class areas anyway.
are you in australia? that might be somewhat of an exception, but i'm sure there are some tough neighborhoods, esp. like next door in the maori slums.
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Originally Posted by slvoid
I'd like to see you sneak that pass the censor!
Oh no, really! I give out great English names! Apple is real popular with girls right now, and Brandon is popular for boys, although usually they like to pick out something they can pronounce correctly. I know one guy named Hawff, another named Antor, and yet another named Zilch. Would you like something like that?
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geezus...this talk is getting really weird...
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Originally Posted by SaintAndrew
are you in australia? that might be somewhat of an exception, but i'm sure there are some tough neighborhoods, esp. like next door in the maori slums.
In Sydney its Redfern, even the police don't like going there especially to an area called the "block"
I heard that South Auckland is also a place you wouldn't want to walk in.
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Originally Posted by DocRay
There are parts of the US where it is not safe for an African-American to travel alone, or god-forbid have an inter-racial marriage, in 2006.
There isn't even tolerance for *****exuals in the US.

I only know from my experience in North Carolina where I lived, where I experienced open racism for dating a woman with darker skin (she was from India). I had never experienced anything like that in Canada, but I'm sure Alberta has its stories.

It's not a good thing to make broad sweeping statements based on your one, limited, experience.

There are parts of THE WORLD where it is not safe for ANYONE to travel alone or god-forbid, have an interracial marriage, in 2006.
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Originally Posted by smellygary
Oh no, really! I give out great English names! Apple is real popular with girls right now, and Brandon is popular for boys, although usually they like to pick out something they can pronounce correctly. I know one guy named Hawff, another named Antor, and yet another named Zilch. Would you like something like that?

I knew a girl whose first name was Saint John. My wife knew a family whose children were named JB, OC, and RK. Those weren't initials; those were their names. There's a lawyer in town with the name Richard Dick. I worked with a Michael Hunt. And then there's the NASCAR driver named Dick Trickle.

Parents can be so twisted, can't they?


Meanwhile, there's some pecan pie in the breakroom and fresh coffee.
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Originally Posted by bbattle
It's not a good thing to make broad sweeping statements based on your one, limited, experience.

There are parts of THE WORLD where it is not safe for ANYONE to travel alone or god-forbid, have an interracial marriage, in 2006.
I think Bahgdad is safe for any white person....LOL!!!!....if you like torture.
The US\Canada are the safest places in the world where you at least have some form of law enforcement and legal protection....no matter how backwoods the local sherrif may be...you still have the FBI to go to and if that fails...there is always CNN's Anderson Cooper to keep them honest.
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This is funny.
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Originally Posted by bbattle
There's a lawyer in town with the name Richard Dick. I worked with a Michael Hunt. And then there's the NASCAR driver named Dick Trickle.

Parents can be so twisted, can't they?


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Originally Posted by bbattle
I knew a girl whose first name was Saint John. My wife knew a family whose children were named JB, OC, and RK. Those weren't initials; those were their names. There's a lawyer in town with the name Richard Dick. I worked with a Michael Hunt. And then there's the NASCAR driver named Dick Trickle.

Parents can be so twisted, can't they?


Meanwhile, there's some pecan pie in the breakroom and fresh coffee.
I was talking about Chinese people that gave themselves those names.
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Those dogging on Asians need to shut up. Michelle Wie is pretty hot, but she's not legal yet.
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1)11) why don't I see more italians in martial arts tournaments, I mean, italians like to fight and everything, and their poor, so it's how they entertain themselves as kids.
I knew I liked you the minute I read your stuff.
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asians in the tour? in the future i can see it happening, especially if i'm in it.
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