The BIGGEST mistake Landis made was...
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The BIGGEST mistake Landis made was...
...winning Stage 17.
He should have let some other non-contender nip him at the line and F.L. would have never been tested.
The cycling world would have been duped in peace...
He should have let some other non-contender nip him at the line and F.L. would have never been tested.
The cycling world would have been duped in peace...
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I think his biggest mistake might have been doping. Just maybe... ;-)
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Originally Posted by kosherdave
I think his biggest mistake might have been doping. Just maybe... ;-)
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Do you really think only the stage winner is tested?
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I understood that the stage winner, MJ, and 1 random rider every stage receive tests.
Is this correct?
Is this correct?
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Originally Posted by Pico
He had to win to gain enough time on his rivals.
It' turns out that Floyd didn't really need the time bonus in retrospect.
This whole thing is so *****ed up, seriously...
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Originally Posted by kosherdave
I think his biggest mistake might have been doping. Just maybe... ;-)
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Originally Posted by georgiaboy
I understood that the stage winner, MJ, and 1 random rider every stage receive tests.
Is this correct?
Is this correct?
from https://www.uci.ch/imgArchive/Rules/14ant-E.pdf
II. ProTour (stage races)
• General rule
1. ProTour leader after the first stage if he is present,
2. ProTour leader after the last stage if he is present,
3. The winner of the stage,
4. The leader of the general classification after the stage,
3. Two riders selected at random by the Inspector.
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Biggest mistake was bonking on stage 16. If his team was worth a s*&t they would have led him up the climbs, where were they? No water, no food where was the domestique?
You ever seen a sport where your team doesn't support you on or off the playing field. That is the joke of all this. The whole sport is screwed up from top to bottom. Why not make the team accountable. Someone is caught cheating the whole team is accountable. Obviously the temptation of screwing up your own career is too much for a lot of these guys but how about if their actions effect other members of the team as well.
It is a real shame because it was one of those rare moments in sports that we only get to see a few times in our lifetime. It would have ranked up there with Miracle on Ice, "The Drive" etc,etc.
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You ever seen a sport where your team doesn't support you on or off the playing field. That is the joke of all this. The whole sport is screwed up from top to bottom. Why not make the team accountable. Someone is caught cheating the whole team is accountable. Obviously the temptation of screwing up your own career is too much for a lot of these guys but how about if their actions effect other members of the team as well.
It is a real shame because it was one of those rare moments in sports that we only get to see a few times in our lifetime. It would have ranked up there with Miracle on Ice, "The Drive" etc,etc.
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Getting caught........................
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biggest mistake,besides doping, was not hiring personal attorney as soon as the" A" specimen tested positive. The spanish team attorney allowed all kinds of speculative comments come to press, drinking,dehydration.cortisone shots ,etc. while saying the "B" specimen he expects to be positive also, before the tests were done. WTF! I"m glad he has a decent lawyer now at least it may prevent him form being banned. TDF title is history though.
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Quiting Disco/Postal or whatever. They have the technology down to where he never would have been caught, and the team talent to support the yellow jersey.
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,,,,his biggest mistake was ever taking to a bike. this idiot has not only ruined his own career but wrecked the reputation of cycling and the tour. he's also stolen the pomp of a clean win from his spanish rival.
uci needs to start imposing life bans on these cheats....
uci needs to start imposing life bans on these cheats....
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Originally Posted by maximum01
,,,,his biggest mistake was ever taking to a bike. this idiot has not only ruined his own career but wrecked the reputation of cycling and the tour. he's also stolen the pomp of a clean win from his spanish rival.
uci needs to start imposing life bans on these cheats....
uci needs to start imposing life bans on these cheats....
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Originally Posted by desmo13
It was clean before landis?
this is a war the uci and tour must fight against the cheats.....it;s not fair to hide behind some assumption that because others cheat landis did no wrong.
if doping isn't addressed more vigirously you can watch cycling sink into the toilet of time.
it's utterly disgusting the way some people on this forum are now trying to "justify" Landis's drug use now that the evidence is conclusive.
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He stole a clean win from Pereiro. LOL
Pereiro had an all world final ITT to try and hold off Landis. Wonder how on earth he did it?? Eating right? Working hard? or Jelly beans and a patch
Pereiro had an all world final ITT to try and hold off Landis. Wonder how on earth he did it?? Eating right? Working hard? or Jelly beans and a patch
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He stole a clean win from Pereiro. LOL
Pereiro had an all world final ITT to try and hold off Landis. Wonder how on earth he did it?? Eating right? Working hard? or Jelly beans and a patch
Pereiro had an all world final ITT to try and hold off Landis. Wonder how on earth he did it?? Eating right? Working hard? or Jelly beans and a patch
now your hero has been proven as a cheat you try and smear the whole peleton.
pathetic.
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who really thinks that all of these guys are on something i do and if you dont then you are crazy the whole pelaton is on something they just havent been cought yet but give it time.
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Originally Posted by maximum01
blow your cynical views out of your a*ss you moron.
now your hero has been proven as a cheat you try and smear the whole peleton.
pathetic.
now your hero has been proven as a cheat you try and smear the whole peleton.
pathetic.
But one must ask how did Oscar come back from 30 minutes down in one stage to take the lead?
Hamilton getting caught bothered me, Landis getting caught has destroyed my interest in the Tour. Should I feel that way? Probably not, but I do.
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Originally Posted by maximum01
blow your cynical views out of your a*ss you moron.
now your hero has been proven as a cheat you try and smear the whole peleton.
pathetic.
now your hero has been proven as a cheat you try and smear the whole peleton.
pathetic.
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bollocks....even le mond was quoted as saying that this years tour was one of the cleanest in history and you could see the riders tiring naturally.
the initial spanish doping investigation rooted out all those riders implicated with a suspect doctor....why does that smear the whole peleton?
there are hundreds of pro riders who don't dope...the vast majority in fact.
in light of what's happened to landis i can understand your need to now believe every cyclist in the peleton cheats...dream on
the initial spanish doping investigation rooted out all those riders implicated with a suspect doctor....why does that smear the whole peleton?
there are hundreds of pro riders who don't dope...the vast majority in fact.
in light of what's happened to landis i can understand your need to now believe every cyclist in the peleton cheats...dream on
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I could care less about Landis. I don't automatically root for him because he is an american.
Drugs or no, I was really hoping to see Ullrich and Basso go at it. As to the Lemond quote, I think that there is a difference between what they tell us and what actually goes on.
Drugs or no, I was really hoping to see Ullrich and Basso go at it. As to the Lemond quote, I think that there is a difference between what they tell us and what actually goes on.