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Old 01-05-07, 09:25 PM
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Is it just me, or...


https://www.competitivecyclist.com/za...RODUCT.ID=3601

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https://pedalforce.com/online/product...oducts_id=3404

For more than 1k less?
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Old 01-05-07, 09:27 PM
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The Cervelo P2 makes you go faster because you spent more on it and need to prove you're worthy
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Head tube, top tube, stays, and the size of the seat tube and down tube are different. However, I know that that PF frame is used almost generically by many supposed ''boutique'' manufacturers and it's probably a great frame.
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While I am sure the PF frame is great and capable TT frame, just beacuse they are both aero dosen't make them the same. By the same logic the denali bike is the same as the r3
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Check the rear dropouts. These are track frames.
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Originally Posted by DieselDan
Check the rear dropouts. These are track frames.

Actually, no. They are TT frames.

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Doesn't matter what it is. The P2C (which I am saving for) is just WAY sexier. (Thanks to midcal for the render)


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Originally Posted by formula4
Doesn't matter what it is. The P2C (which I am saving for) is just WAY sexier. (Thanks to midcal for the render)



holy crap....that is hot...and i don't even time trial
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Originally Posted by DieselDan
Check the rear dropouts. These are track frames.
Track frames don't have derailleur hangers. It's a TT frame, the horizontal drop outs allow you to slide the rear wheel as close to the frame as possible.
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Originally Posted by formula4
Doesn't matter what it is. The P2C (which I am saving for) is just WAY sexier. (Thanks to midcal for the render)


How about this..

or this
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it's just you.
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I like that Pinarello.
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Originally Posted by botto
it's just you.
+1 - some major differences there.
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I can't seem to read that pedal force logo out loud with out screaming the word blade in a maniacal voice.
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But they're both frames! And aero! And carbon!
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Originally Posted by austinspinner
I can't seem to read that pedal force logo out loud with out screaming the word blade in a maniacal voice.
To me it just looks like my kid wrote it. My kid can't write, or talk, or even walk, but it looks like his work.
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internal cables for the p2c. Plus who wants to own a bike that looks like a little kid designed the graphics for?
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You can't tell anything about the interior construction, hence, build quality of a carbon frame just by looking at it. Even if they slightly resemble each other.
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You can if you have x-ray eyes. DUH!
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That pedal force frame, under another name, won the U23 Worlds TT this year.
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if they put the word "blade" in the same font as "aero", they would sell twice as many, at a higher price.
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Wow that aero blade looks nice! I would so love to ride that. I think the price is very reasonable for carbon frame also.
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Originally Posted by Smoothie104
if they put the word "blade" in the same font as "aero", they would sell twice as many, at a higher price.

Agreed. I could make a better design with 20 minutes in photoshop.
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My Honda Accord has 4 wheels. A Ferrari has 4 wheels. My Honda Accord is really a Ferrari.
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Originally Posted by DrPete
My Honda Accord has 4 wheels. A Ferrari has 4 wheels. My Honda Accord is really a Ferrari.
I read a review once of the corvette c6 and a porsche 911. The corvette, while performing as well or better in almost every test, got the lower score. The reviewer's reason: driving a corvette simply doesn't feel the same.

I think there's something to be said for that. Of course, I would own a corvette years before I ever owned a porsche, because porsches are for tools.

Audi - now there's a car I could get into.
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