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The guy on the movie "Breaking Away" rides one. What more do you want?
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Originally Posted by Matimeo
The guy on the movie "Breaking Away" rides one. What more do you want?
Never mind. (See the early posts). :beer: |
Originally Posted by Masiguy
That paint issue predates my employment here, so I can't say I know anything about that. Normally the Taiwanese paint is phenomenal. The people we work with have a facility that looks like a hospital operating room- you could eat off the floors.
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Originally Posted by oilman_15106
Sorry to sound like both a supporter and spoiler of Masi. The paint on my 2002 Gran Crit. will chip if you look at it sideways. This is the only bike of the many I own that I have ever seen this type problem. It is a great ride and all but looks like it has gone through the war and has never been even laid down by me, second owner. Almost like a spray can job. Short of stripping the frame and redoing and according to Haro customer service, no decals are available, is there anything you can do?
I expect to have to repaint a Cinelli, Colnago(replace all that crazy color with red) sometime in a few years. IF you inspect very closely, every trail will have aound it's bigger bumps, chips of Colnago, Cinelli, celeste paint sprinkled around. Touch-ups are the only practical solution, this especially if you have a black bike. If you really value the frame though, a complete repaint is the only option. Hopefully you'll get Masiguy to take care of that for you. To be really accurate, I should modify my avatar to show several specs of missing paint on my Cinelli :) |
Originally Posted by oilman_15106
Sorry to sound like both a supporter and spoiler of Masi. The paint on my 2002 Gran Crit. will chip if you look at it sideways. This is the only bike of the many I own that I have ever seen this type problem. It is a great ride and all but looks like it has gone through the war and has never been even laid down by me, second owner. Almost like a spray can job. Short of stripping the frame and redoing and according to Haro customer service, no decals are available, is there anything you can do?
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A lot of folks seem to be saying they can not see any real difference between a hand-made frame and fork, made with hours of careful work by a skilled craftsman, and the cheapo generic frames and forks pouring out of Asian factories by the thousand.
That "dumbing down" of American consumers may explain why there is a McDonalds on every street corner in America and a Wal-Mart just up the block..."honest, a McD burger tastes just like fresh ground sirloin"...."These pleather shoes from Wal-Mart are just as nice as a pair of hand-made calfskin loafers made in Milan"....sigh... |
you are so very wise and knowledgeable.
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Originally Posted by alanbikehouston
A lot of folks seem to be saying they can not see any real difference between a hand-made frame and fork, made with hours of careful work by a skilled craftsman, and the cheapo generic frames and forks pouring out of Asian factories by the thousand.
That "dumbing down" of American consumers may explain why there is a McDonalds on every street corner in America and a Wal-Mart just up the block..."honest, a McD burger tastes just like fresh ground sirloin"...."These pleather shoes from Wal-Mart are just as nice as a pair of hand-made calfskin loafers made in Milan"....sigh... As for the decals for that Gran Crit- I can send you a set, just gimme an address and the color you intend to paint it. I'll find something. |
Originally Posted by alanbikehouston
A lot of folks seem to be saying they can not see any real difference between a hand-made frame and fork, made with hours of careful work by a skilled craftsman, and the cheapo generic frames and forks pouring out of Asian factories by the thousand. .
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Originally Posted by rufvelo
That characteristic is very Italian! You got what you paid for :)
I expect to have to repaint a Cinelli, Colnago(replace all that crazy color with red) sometime in a few years. IF you inspect very closely, every trail will have aound it's bigger bumps, chips of Colnago, Cinelli, celeste paint sprinkled around. Touch-ups are the only practical solution, this especially if you have a black bike. If you really value the frame though, a complete repaint is the only option. Hopefully you'll get Masiguy to take care of that for you. To be really accurate, I should modify my avatar to show several specs of missing paint on my Cinelli :) |
Originally Posted by oilman_15106
You need to go back. Tim says the paint job on the Gran Crits from 2002 to 2004 were done in Taiwan not Italy. Even thouhg the frames were built in Italy. The Italian paint jobs were famously known for their problems.
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Originally Posted by Masiguy
I don't .
does it have a weight limit? |
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Originally Posted by Masiguy
Geography is irrelevant, but... ride what makes you happy
Geography has less to do with quality than the people working on it. In the future, I hope to own a genuine Italian/spanish frame but that's another story. That is just more for the ooooh factor. I was also entertaining getting a Masi frame (steel/carbon) for the time being. They look so nice and people have stated that it feels so nice. I can't wait to be able to get one once I have enough $$ put away |
Originally Posted by dsb137
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Originally Posted by Masiguy
(Post 3668916)
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As for the Italian made frames we did from 2002-2004; the frames were built in Italy and then sent to Taiwan for paint and building. The frames are great quality and I will personally confirm that they ride as nice as anything from any other recognized builder in Italy or elsewhere. As far as production bikes go, they are extremely sweet. 25 years of doing this, I promise you they ride great... |
I don't know enough about them to comment one way or another.
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These (frames) are still 100% Italian though...
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j4...niIMG_6934.jpg http://www.milanicycles.com/ http://www.cyclingnews.com/sponsors/...008/milani.php |
http://i361.photobucket.com/albums/o...kes2008012.jpg
Here's my 2004 Masi Gran Crit, Alu with carbon seat and chain stays. I bought the frame and fork and built it up from there. It's my first Alu bike. I expected the "dead" feeling that I hear Alu can produce. At least in this bike, it feels quite "lively" and I'd favorably compare the ride to my Ciocc COM 12.5 (steel)that I really love. |
Originally Posted by zatopek
(Post 8147049)
http://i361.photobucket.com/albums/o...kes2008012.jpg
Here's my 2004 Masi Gran Crit, Alu with carbon seat and chain stays. I bought the frame and fork and built it up from there. It's my first Alu bike. I expected the "dead" feeling that I hear Alu can produce. At least in this bike, it feels quite "lively" and I'd favorably compare the ride to my Ciocc COM 12.5 (steel)that I really love. |
WARNING! 2-yr-old thread :)
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What about Cinelli's? Where are they made anyhow? |
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