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Old 01-28-07, 07:08 AM
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If the magnet is close to the rim it is traveling slower than if the same magnet is mounted closer to the hub and the faster speed may (slight chance) confuse the sensor at extremely high road speeds, however, placing the weight closer to the rim would theoretically negatively effect acceleration. These two issues are pretty irrelevant to reality. The speeds at which the wheel would have to spin in order to confuse the sensor would have to be unreal and the slight weight of magnet near the hub is almost too little to compute.

Basically, everything I have read on the subject indicates that function is not really impacted by location on the spoke so go for ascetics.
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Originally Posted by Trevor98
function is not really impacted by location on the spoke so go for ascetics.
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

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Originally Posted by Ironic Mullet
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Yeah, I don't think an ascetic would even have a bike computer, much less a fancy bike.

Originally Posted by american heritage dictionary
as·cet·ic (ə-sět'ĭk)
n. A person who renounces material comforts and leads a life of austere self-discipline, especially as an act of religious devotion.

adj.

1. Leading a life of self-discipline and self-denial, especially for spiritual improvement. See Synonyms at severe.
2. Pertaining to or characteristic of an ascetic; self-denying and austere: an ascetic existence.
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Here's another question for the nit-pickers; What way do you mount your sensor? On the front of the fork, or behind the fork? Does either effect aerodynamics? I recently moved mine from the middle and rear of the fork, to the top and front of the fork. Looks was the only reason. It looks better to me just under the brake caliper.
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Originally Posted by x43x
Here's another question for the nit-pickers; What way do you mount your sensor? On the front of the fork, or behind the fork? Does either effect aerodynamics? I recently moved mine from the middle and rear of the fork, to the top and front of the fork. Looks was the only reason. It looks better to me just under the brake caliper.
I was told that my sensor placement was un-aero. I'll use all that extra resistance (must be AT LEAST 0.001W) to train harder.
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^^^ Ooooh, daytonian, she's purdy. Very nice...
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^^^ Ooooh, daytonian, she's purdy. Very nice...
Thanks. She's filthy after yesterdays slogfest in the sleet which you got today.....but I like em filthy
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stupid spell check.
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Thanks. She's filthy after yesterdays slogfest in the sleet which you got today.....but I like em filthy
Yeah, it took about 2 hours to clean mine off today. I still love that you can clean CF with Pledge. Lemony fresh!
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Originally Posted by dekalbSTEEL
If you do that holding on to a car thing, could you video tape that for us?
Definite YouTube opportunity here ...
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I've used my GPS with my three different cars and all of the speedos indicate about two MPH fast. Both my road bikes have been correct. One has a Cateye and the other a Serfas.
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If you're really fussy about calibration like me then measure the circumference by marking a position on the tire and moving it forward one revolution while sitting on the bike and on a road surface. You should easily be able to get a value within 1cm which would make it accurate to about +/- 0.5%.
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All of my sensors go on the left rear chainstay.
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Originally Posted by Retro Grouch
Interesting. I've found that most of the time the valve stem is the lightest part of the wheel. I assume that's mostly due to the steel pins that are used to pin the rim joint together opposite the valve stem. When I put a bike with a nicely adjusted hub on the workstand, the front wheel usually rotates until the valve stem is near the top.
Exactly my experience too for moderate priced aluminum rims (i.e open pro). If I add a typical magnet on the valve side (with tube installed) I still find it to be lighter - that is the added magnet weight it still not enough to make up for the seam weight. Obviously this will vary by wheel design.

I like the idea of putting the magnet closer to hub, so the time it takes the magnet to pass the sensor is slower, possibly leading to less chance of miscount at top speeds.
But sometime short wire length has had me put magnet closer to rim and I've never noticed a problem.

As to calibration, wheel rollout is best as explained by Sheldon. I put a dab of white out on tire

https://sheldonbrown.com/cyclecomputers/index.html

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speaking of computer mounting...there was a pic somewhere in this forum of a Polar HRM strapped to the bars in a rather ingenious way that did not involve using the mount. It was pretty cool and remember it got a few oohhs and ahhhs from Polar users.

Anyone have that pic...?

edit: found it...




https://bikeforums.net/showthread.php...nt#post3111399

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Originally Posted by orcanova
Anyone have that pic...?
Just slide the loop up to the top of the strap. Run the other strap through the loop so that both straps pass through the loop. Spread the straps apart below where they come through the loop and just it on the bars as you would around your wrist.

edit: you found the pic..
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Originally Posted by interceptor
My sensor for the computer is about two thirds down the fork (most look like the are about in the middle).
Does it matter? I was going to hold on to someones car to test for accuracy. Do I need to?
Cars typically have an error of 1-2%. You can do that well by entering the number from the chart for your tire size. If you want to verify there is a lot of info on this at https://www.sheldonbrown.com/cyclecom...libration.html
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Once you've got your sensor in a good position on the fork (or the rear stay, as the case may be), you might want to secure it with a dab of RTV silicone glue (the kind that smells like vinegar when its wet), which will keep the sensor from moving but will peel off pretty easily without damaging the sensor or bike finish if you need to remove it.
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