Xero Lite XR-1's - any good?
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Xero Lite XR-1's - any good?
Came across these on ebay:
https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll..._promot_widget
Anyone have any experience with these wheels and/or the seller in question? I am quite interested in the claimed weight on the pic. 1520grams for the wheelset? Seems very light for such an inexpensive wheelset.
Thanks for any input provided.
https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll..._promot_widget
Anyone have any experience with these wheels and/or the seller in question? I am quite interested in the claimed weight on the pic. 1520grams for the wheelset? Seems very light for such an inexpensive wheelset.
Thanks for any input provided.
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I've used them and can tell you that while they are a light and aero set of wheels, I was able to make the rear wheel flex on a number of occassions when climbing. The wheels ended up not being stiff enough for me.
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Avoid them if you are +200lbs. See this thread for reference if you are over 200lbs.
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I like this section here, pulled from a review on roadbikereviews:
https://www.roadbikereview.com/cat/wh...x.aspx#reviews
https://www.roadbikereview.com/cat/wh...x.aspx#reviews
Originally Posted by grizwald
I installed the wheels Friday night for use on Saturday mornings club ride. I knew after the second warm up lap around the parking lot I'd made a mistake. Having been riding bikes for about 18 years now I can without a doubt say that the xr1's are by far the flexiest, scariest wheelset I have ever ridden! FWIW, I am 175 lbs, not quiet a Clydesdale.
I promptly removed the wheelset Saturday afternoon expecting to seek a refund from Price Point. After reading the fine print on the back of my reciept, I understood that their policy for reurns/refunds was that the product "be in new/unused condition". So, I decided that before I'd risk blowing another $30 sending them back to Price Point, I'd call customer service and explain the situation. The guy clarified theand "new/unused condition", I explained to him that the wheels had about 30 miles on them, the amount of flex I experience scared the hell out of me and that I was very uncomfortable and feared hat one of them could easily shell out on me an potentiall trash my body/my bike or worse yet, both. He alluded to the fact that I was not the first customer to express concerns or complaints about that wheelset. To which i responded by inquiring as to " why do you still sale them then?" He responded, "because people buy them"
I promptly removed the wheelset Saturday afternoon expecting to seek a refund from Price Point. After reading the fine print on the back of my reciept, I understood that their policy for reurns/refunds was that the product "be in new/unused condition". So, I decided that before I'd risk blowing another $30 sending them back to Price Point, I'd call customer service and explain the situation. The guy clarified theand "new/unused condition", I explained to him that the wheels had about 30 miles on them, the amount of flex I experience scared the hell out of me and that I was very uncomfortable and feared hat one of them could easily shell out on me an potentiall trash my body/my bike or worse yet, both. He alluded to the fact that I was not the first customer to express concerns or complaints about that wheelset. To which i responded by inquiring as to " why do you still sale them then?" He responded, "because people buy them"
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Great set of wheels if you're a lighter guy... heavier folks seem to have problems with them, although I've read some very enthusiastic reviews by heavier people... I'm 147-150 lbs depending on the day, and they work great for me...
Another factor that may cause some people not to have a great experience with them is how true they are out of the box. It's always a good idea to spend 20-30 bucks getting any wheels you order online looked over at a shop before you ride them... you may have a vastly different experience based on whether or not you do this.
That being said, I find them stiff and pretty damn bomb-proof. They track corners superbly and handle speed decents very well.
And the clincher? (dig the pun) My set's actual verified weight is only 1503 grams!
(although all wheels vary set to set)
Another factor that may cause some people not to have a great experience with them is how true they are out of the box. It's always a good idea to spend 20-30 bucks getting any wheels you order online looked over at a shop before you ride them... you may have a vastly different experience based on whether or not you do this.
That being said, I find them stiff and pretty damn bomb-proof. They track corners superbly and handle speed decents very well.
And the clincher? (dig the pun) My set's actual verified weight is only 1503 grams!
(although all wheels vary set to set)
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So it seems like there are quality control issues, since my wheels were trued by my shop and still flexed enough that, when climbing, Vinokurtov could hear the spokes pinging.
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That seller is very good and where I bought them from since he's semi-local (although the wheels just drop ship from a warehouse). Don't hestitate to buy them there.
The others are right, if you are heavy or powerful the rear wheel has lots of flex, and the front wheel too much windup. The rear wheel flex is felt under hard climbing or sprinting. I'm working on trying increased spoke tensions to help this. They are however solid and stay true and round. They are light and move forward through the air well. The claimed weight is spot on and mine came in a few grams under. As VT to CA said, at his 150 pounds they are probably excellent wheels for the money. So it depends on your weight and strength.
The others are right, if you are heavy or powerful the rear wheel has lots of flex, and the front wheel too much windup. The rear wheel flex is felt under hard climbing or sprinting. I'm working on trying increased spoke tensions to help this. They are however solid and stay true and round. They are light and move forward through the air well. The claimed weight is spot on and mine came in a few grams under. As VT to CA said, at his 150 pounds they are probably excellent wheels for the money. So it depends on your weight and strength.
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I really like mine. Then again, i'm only 130-135 lbs (~155 lbs with gear and water). I got them earlier this month.
I got mine through www.bicyclewheels.com from one of their EBay listings. I'm not sure if they true/tension them before shipping them out though... But they're straight and true after afew hundred miles. I'll have my LBS check them over whenever i bring my bike in next.
I got mine through www.bicyclewheels.com from one of their EBay listings. I'm not sure if they true/tension them before shipping them out though... But they're straight and true after afew hundred miles. I'll have my LBS check them over whenever i bring my bike in next.
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For reference I'm about 150#
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Thanks for the replies. I am 164lbs give or take a pound or two. I guess I'll read a bit more on them. Until I saw these I had been considering Fulcrum 7 and 5's, Campy Khamsin and Vento's and possibly Mavic Aksium's. These wheels seemed to be considerably lighter but at that price I am worried about the flex and strength, even at my weight. Any opinions on my other choices in comparison to the Xero Lite's?
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Well, the wheels are rumored to use Velocity Deep-V rims (i have yet to see any explicit conformation but the shapes and measurements match) so you might want to check into some of reputable wheel builders online and order a set through them using a higher spoke count of course.
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I have about 200 miles on my XR-1s. They were very slightly out of true, but rideable, out of the box. Overall better than the stock Shimano 550s that were on the bike - far lighter, as stiff, climb, track and corner as good or better so far. I find them to be predictable, and they have yet to scare me. I notice a slightly harsher ride, but that's more likely the tire choice.
Depending on your riding style and expectations, they seem to be a great deal at $200.
For reference - I'm 190 lbs, but my riding isn't that agressive, and at 200 miles it's too earlier to make any real judgement.
Depending on your riding style and expectations, they seem to be a great deal at $200.
For reference - I'm 190 lbs, but my riding isn't that agressive, and at 200 miles it's too earlier to make any real judgement.
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I have yet to ride mine. I got them because my other set was trashed, I hate Mavic's, they were cheap and light, and they got good reviews from somewhat light people (I'm 157lbs), and I hate Mavic's.
I've gotten so hit by the weather lately that it's nearly impossible to ride anymore. If you want a really, really light wheelset, just buy some Record of D-A hubs, the least number of holes you can get, and build with Velocity wheels and Sapim CX-Ray spokes. My virtual track wheelset is 1130g for heavy hubs, $160 in spokes (64) and Velocity Tubulars.
I've gotten so hit by the weather lately that it's nearly impossible to ride anymore. If you want a really, really light wheelset, just buy some Record of D-A hubs, the least number of holes you can get, and build with Velocity wheels and Sapim CX-Ray spokes. My virtual track wheelset is 1130g for heavy hubs, $160 in spokes (64) and Velocity Tubulars.
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I got a pair a year ago. A few pings on the first couple of rides. I weigh 175#. Since then, no problems, and still true. They are a good bang for the buck wheel, imo.
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Originally Posted by PatrickVA
Depending on your riding style and expectations, they seem to be a great deal at $200.
Initially they would be paired to a Bianchi Veloce steel frame with a Kinesis carbon fork. Are there any wheelsets that would be a better match to that frame in a similar price range? Although later on I will probably look into upgrading the frame, theres an aluminum Pinarello I've had my eye on 
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Originally Posted by bdcheung
So it seems like there are quality control issues, since my wheels were trued by my shop and still flexed enough that, when climbing, Vinokurtov could hear the spokes pinging.
Hi BDcheung,
I got mine used when you posted a pic of your felt for me. I've had about 500 miles on them and my set(with the rim tape) weighed 1580 grams
That is freaking heavy! However, they spin true and do not flex for the time I have them. Granted, I'm no sprinter, a decent climber, and on good days weigh about 128 pounds. So I'm in the ultra SL category in terms of weight. I can basically ride the lightest wheels out there.
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Originally Posted by FizzyPop
Thanks for the replies. I am 164lbs give or take a pound or two. I guess I'll read a bit more on them. Until I saw these I had been considering Fulcrum 7 and 5's, Campy Khamsin and Vento's and possibly Mavic Aksium's. These wheels seemed to be considerably lighter but at that price I am worried about the flex and strength, even at my weight. Any opinions on my other choices in comparison to the Xero Lite's?
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With a steel frame, you may want a slighty flexier wheel. From what I've heard, super stiff wheels on a frame that has some flex are more likely to brush against the brakes when you are climbing.
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If you want another set of wheels that are pretty damn indestructable I would look at the XRP's that sell on E-Bay. They are decent and are tough as nails. I have ridden them and never had a issue and I am 195 lbs.
I think around $230 give or take you can get a set.
I think around $230 give or take you can get a set.
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Originally Posted by mike9903
I just got a set of Fulcrum 5's and I love them, if you look hard you can find them around $250 on eBay, just make sure you get the Fulcrum 5 Elvolutions, they are lighter than previous models.
Anyone familiar with the site?
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I'm 135 lbs, sprinter type. I have probably about 5 to 6 thousand miles over two sets of these wheels over a few years. They never let me down and I have never trued them. They are flexy, so I dont race on them.
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Originally Posted by EdZ
I'm 135 lbs, sprinter type. I have probably about 5 to 6 thousand miles over two sets of these wheels over a few years. They never let me down and I have never trued them. They are flexy, so I dont race on them.
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i weigh in at 180lbs. I found the XR-1's very flexy. Whenever i stood up on a climb i could hear the rear wheel rub against the brake pads. Sold them and used a set of Mike Garcia DT wheels instead.
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Originally Posted by PhatRoadie
i weigh in at 180lbs. I found the XR-1's very flexy. Whenever i stood up on a climb i could hear the rear wheel rub against the brake pads. Sold them and used a set of Mike Garcia DT wheels instead.
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Originally Posted by bdcheung
So it seems like there are quality control issues, since my wheels were trued by my shop and still flexed enough that, when climbing, Vinokurtov could hear the spokes pinging.