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Old 02-18-07, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by recneps
I think if he was worried about weight he wouldnt be using alloy hbars and a alloy seatpost.
Believe it or not sometimes alloy can be lighter than CF. (GASP!)
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Originally Posted by Stunning Stu
Believe it or not sometimes alloy can be lighter than CF. (GASP!)
actually when it comes to bars, thats usually the case.
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Old 02-18-07, 08:46 PM
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If only I could get trim-type brifters...
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Originally Posted by Surferbruce
actually when it comes to bars, thats usually the case.
Low to mid-range products I'd agree, but with the high-end bars, carbon has the edge... most high-end alloy bars fall in the 200-240 gram range with most high-end carbon bars in the 180-220 range...

I'm not counting the carbon wing designs, usually in the 230-280 gram range, since you can't really compare those to a standard shaped alloy, and if you were to compare those to alloy wings (usually low to mid-range products), the carbons would be MUCH lighter)

Stems however, the low-weight edge goes to alloy- across the board, from low-end stuff to high-end... in general. There may be some uber-exotic carbon stem out there that's the lightest.
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I pretty sure that the one downtube shifter was used because he could adjust the trim on his front derailleur.
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O.K., so who's gonna be the one to go right up to Lance's face and call him a weight weenie?
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Old 02-18-07, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ElJamoquio
If only I could get trim-type brifters...
you basically can with campy, at least chorus and record, and centaur and veloce before this year (i still have yet to really find out if the quickshift affects the trimmability (?) of the fd).
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Old 02-18-07, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by dekalbSTEEL
Just think how much weight he could have saved by not wearing those ridiculous knee-socks!
So, Lance is a ... FRED!
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Old 02-18-07, 10:55 PM
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And unlike the downtube shifter, the socks don't count toward the weight of the bike, so that's real weight saved, not just weight to use elsewhere on the bike!
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Old 02-18-07, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jschen
If you lower weight even more, you can run more aero wheels and have a more aero bike while still staying right at the weight limit. Cervelo explains this in their website on the Carbon Soloist SL. Sure, CSC can have a UCI limit bike with the Carbon Soloist by running Zipp Z2's. But with the Carbon Soloist SL, they now can run Zipp 404's and still be at the UCI limit.
Most people prefer to use the weight savings on a power meter during a climbing stage.
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Old 02-18-07, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by CrimsonKarter21
I pretty sure that the one downtube shifter was used because he could adjust the trim on his front derailleur.
I'll leave it to the master:
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Originally Posted by bbp
Most people prefer to use the weight savings on a power meter during a climbing stage.
like whom? aside from former ProTour team Phonak?
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Old 02-18-07, 11:46 PM
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I refuse to question the tactics of the 7-time TdF champ.
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Yes, but in Lance's job, 6 seconds actually CAN make a difference.
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Old 02-19-07, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Eatadonut
Yeah, but then maybe he could add the weight somewhere else, to increase stiffness or something?
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Aaaaanyway, to eliminate the weight from a brifter, the up-high swinging weight of the bike is lower. That's going to give it a much nicer feel out of the saddle. Then they can put the weight somewhere more useful -- and lower.
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Originally Posted by hal
Yeh! I'm guessing its Ti or something.
You know, Ti is more dense than aluminum...
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Old 02-19-07, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by bdcheung
incorrect. it was a weight thing. always has been.
Incorrect. San Rensho is right.
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Originally Posted by San Rensho
I think he did it because DT shifting on the front does give you a very positive feel and probably can shift cleaner from the small to the big CR under power. Can't believe it was a weight thing.

1) It's been widely reported that the reason was weight, by multiple sources, that would all have to be wrong.

2) If DT shifting is superior, why wouldn't he use it all the time? instead of just going DT on mountain stages?
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Originally Posted by botto
Did you know that he got the idea from Andy Hampsten?
Yes.
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Old 02-19-07, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by botto
incorrect.

they were on campagnolo in 1998/1999

You're right, the year is 1997. I have photos of Jalabert, Zulle (at the Vuelta '97) and others on Look bicycles with this setup in Dura - Ace.
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Originally Posted by Reynolds
You're right, the year is 1997. I have photos of Jalabert, Zulle (at the Vuelta '97) and others on Look bicycles with this setup in Dura - Ace.
which he probably picked up from Hampsten as well, seeing as Hampsten was doing it as early as '92.

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Originally Posted by Mike V
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Those are called 'speed holes'

Another weight savings would be to get rid of all decals and sand the paint off the frame.
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