Originally Posted by WheresWaldo

These threads usually crack me up. The frame is usually the cheapest part of the whole bike. There is not a single component group that I know of that is made in the USA or for that matter the U.S.A. either. So it is a false sense of patriotism that you display buy saying you will only buy American when the bulk of the parts are from anywhere but America.

Don't flame me here, because I do buy many American things. I just realize that many of the things we think are American made are usually not completely American made.

Just so you know USA is a city in Japan.

Botto: I love both the old and new America, not fond of Usa, though!

Originally Posted by oilman_15106

Didn't the FTC outlaw the "Made In USA" stuff that was actually made in USA, Japan?

Originally Posted by c_bake

This reply won't help the OP but anyway....What about the components? Shifters, wheels, carbon forks,handle bars, carbon seatpost, no way will these items be made in the USA. Kinda like buying a Harley Davidson then customiziing it with aftermarket products not made in the U.S.A. Go figure.
Late.

Originally Posted by G60

no. because nothing shady like that really happens.

http://www.snopes.com/business/genius/usa.asp

Originally Posted by floyd landis

... because like you I'm not sure about Chinese made carbon quailty and the fact 1 factory makes like 5 companies bikes ...

Originally Posted by teterider

Contrary to many posts and many posters in this forum, wanting to buy American is a good thing. We all buy lots and lots of foreign stuff everyday without hesitation, so there is nothing wrong with wanting to keep a US factory worker employed. As you will see now from this comment, there are so many people who simply have no clue why someone would want to this and enjoy flaming anyone who actually wants to buy american. I kid you not when I say in another forum on this topic someone posted that it wouldn't matter if all manufacturing left the US, oh and they threw in that the US flag was meaningless.

Originally Posted by WheresWaldo

I use snopes too. I did not say anything was made in Usa, I just said there is a city called Usa, which there is! It's just that the Japanese did not rename it that, it was already called that. So the Snopes story is only partially correct within the scope of its limited view.

Originally Posted by Surferbruce

here's an incomplete list of builders who do ti and at least deserve a look. all here in the U.S.A.
Cherry Cycles
Fred Parr
Edge Cycles
David Wilson
Ogle Bike Works
Dean
Desalvo
James Frames
Roark Custom Bicycles
Primus Mootry
Gilmour
Rex Cycles
Kish
Kelson
HiTi
Holland
El Camino Fabrication
Rogue Cycles
Sramek
Strong
Zanotti
Ti Cycles
not to say that Sevens aren't great. I just met a couple who bought a pair for their 25th wedding anniversary and love em. If you're friends all have Sevens already though, why not do something different?

Originally Posted by Namenda

So, which part of the snopes article is incorrect? And how all-encompassing must this artice be, to say that no products were ever made in Usa, Japan...and then shipped here with a misleading label? Is there another aspect of this non-existant "scam" that wasn't addressed?

Originally Posted by WheresWaldo

Your reading to much into this, Snopes suggests that the city was renamed, although not explicitly saying so. This is simply not true.

I have no idea if anything is actually manufactured there.

Originally Posted by Namenda

No, the snopes article says that Usa "was not creating (sic) by renaming another town". I'm just reading what is there, nothing more.

Originally Posted by WheresWaldo

Sorry, need coffee. Apparently I read more there than there was.

FYI, Usa has been there since at least the 8th Century.

Besides you responded before I edited my response, are you sitting on this thread this morning? :D

Originally Posted by acorn_user

Surely it's a good thing to support American industry? These guys have jobs and families too.
And it's not like making stuff here makes it totally uncompetitive.
Anyway, good on the OP for wanting to support industry in this country.

Originally Posted by botto

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Originally Posted by Namenda

That's not in Mississippi, is it?

Originally Posted by botto

Originally Posted by Namenda

Aberdeen is in England?!:eek:

I had no idea Kurt Cobain was British.:D

Originally Posted by botto

Ecosse.

Originally Posted by onkey

hmmm

on all my bikes, my frame is the most expensive part of the bike. isn't that how it should be? (no offense to people riding cheap frames with expensive groupo's)

example:

legend ti st - $4,095 dura-ace group - $1,500??

if crown jewel - $2,200 dura-ace group - $1,500?


cheers

Originally Posted by teterider

Contrary to many posts and many posters in this forum, wanting to buy American is a good thing. We all buy lots and lots of foreign stuff everyday without hesitation, so there is nothing wrong with wanting to keep a US factory worker employed. As you will see now from this comment, there are so many people who simply have no clue why someone would want to this and enjoy flaming anyone who actually wants to buy american. I kid you not when I say in another forum on this topic someone posted that it wouldn't matter if all manufacturing left the US, oh and they threw in that the US flag was meaningless.

Originally Posted by WheresWaldo

There is not a single component group that I know of that is made in the USA or for that matter the U.S.A. either. So it is a false sense of patriotism that you display buy saying you will only buy American when the bulk of the parts are from anywhere but America.

Originally Posted by merlinextraligh

Read Capitalism and Freedom by Milton Friedman, then you'll see why the first statement is misguided, although well intended, and why it doesn't matter if all manufacturing left the US (and by the way it won't). http://www.amazon.com/Capitalism-Fre...e=UTF8&s=books

Originally Posted by ElJamoquio

Where are SRAM parts made?

Originally Posted by waytoomanybikes

There is a difference between an American company sourcing re-labelled parts out of another country and the parts being made in the US.

Originally Posted by ElJamoquio

I recognize that an American company can manufacture parts overseas, which is why I asked. I don't believe SRAM re-labels anything, however.

Originally Posted by R900

Trek makes most high end bikes in the USA, not just Madones. You'll need to check each frame, or you can email Trek customer service. Until recently the 2100 was made in the US.