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blacksquid 02-20-07 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by cs1
Yeah, know what you mean. My Lowrider has those nice Showa forks and Chinese battery. LOL

Tim

Used to ride with the mechanic at my local Harley shop and this guy years replacing all of the foreign made part with US equivalents. Got down to the last piece and couldn't find a replacement. It was the gear in his speedometer!

Phantoj 02-20-07 11:29 AM

FYI - Cannondale makes aluminum Synapses in PA; it's just the carbon Synapse that's outsourced.

vjp 02-20-07 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by 3MTA3
i love the usa-made ox platinum steel lemonds. like buttah.

http://www.mike-myers.net/gallery/da...a/27/linda.jpg

Canadian

biker128pedal 02-20-07 03:26 PM

Response
 
I sure stirred the kettle. Thanks for answering my questions. It has been confusing as I don’t see the made in stickers on the bike unless they are made in USA.

I was looking at Carbon because I road a friends Trek Madone. Not sure which one, I just know he upgraded from a 5.2. It felt stiff like an old Aluminum Cannondale yet very smooth on the road.

I like the small builders but am hesitant about buying a bike without riding it. I could build one up. I usually build my own wheels. But I want more time to ride for now. It reached 65 F today.

Anybody looked at Brew. I did not see in the list.

Will be lurking.

Thanks:D

Mike

botto 02-20-07 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by biker128pedal
I sure stirred the kettle.

http://images.dpchallenge.com/images.../157/47063.jpg

acorn_user 02-20-07 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by botto
acorn_user
Senior Member

Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Newcastle-upon-Tyne

?

Well, I haven't updated it for a while ;) But I say exactly the same thing in the UK, of UK workers. I grew up in an industrial town, and have seen what happens when people say manufacturing is "past it", and it is not pretty. When Rover closed, they said go work in Tescos. But the jobs are not comparable; one pays minimum wage, the other more than enough to pay for University tuition....

Also, Milton Friedman's theories are interesting, but a wholesale free market with no Government interference would be a disaster for the common man. This is what Thatcher tried; Blairs skill is melding the good things that capitalism does with the good things that social democracy does. I'll go back to reading Maynard Keynes now. Now he really was a genius!

Dave

floyd landis 02-20-07 10:03 PM


Originally Posted by R900
Trek makes most high end bikes in the USA, not just Madones. You'll need to check each frame, or you can email Trek customer service. Until recently the 2100 was made in the US.

sorry I asked Trek like 2 days ago and the 2100 and 5000 are now made in China.:(

3MTA3 02-20-07 10:06 PM


Originally Posted by vjp
Canadian

a canadian doing a long-island jewish mother... i just crack up whenever i see those skits & he says "i'm all vaklempt.. talk amongst yourselves," & "like buttah!"

floyd landis 02-20-07 10:11 PM


Originally Posted by Zouf
Well, drop carbon as your favorite material - because if you're not sure about Chinese made carbon, you're not sure about carbon period, since it comes 90% from China + Taiwan.

And 1 factory also makes 5 company mp3 players (Foxconn), and cell phones (Foxconn again), and laptops, and... so I would suggest getting an 8-track tape player, and a set of drums to communicate, and some paper + pencil...

If buying low quality goods just for the sake of having them is your thing that's fine but North American made is better check out Guru. PS I still have a turntable made in England by hand so for that matter is the rest of my system real quality.Also no cell phone!

CastIron 02-20-07 10:26 PM

My German engineered (perhaps) Scott is made in Taiwan. I'd urge you to re-consider because the small hands of the malnourished child slaves actually improve the quality of the product by an order of magnitude. Big 'ole beefy gringo hands just don't have the same finesse in the carbon fiber layup.

WheresWaldo 02-20-07 10:27 PM

All American Apple Pie
http://images.allrecipes.com/site/al.../big/29055.jpg

INGREDIENTS
* 1 1/2 cups all-purpose flour
* 1/2 cup vegetable oil
* 2 tablespoons cold milk
* 1 1/2 teaspoons white sugar
* 1 teaspoon salt
* 6 Fuji apples, cored and sliced
* 3/4 cup white sugar
* 3 tablespoons all-purpose flour
* 3/4 teaspoon ground cinnamon
* 1/2 teaspoon ground nutmeg
* 1/2 cup all-purpose flour
* 1/2 cup white sugar
* 1/2 cup butter
DIRECTIONS
1. Preheat oven to 350 degrees F (175 degrees C).
2. To Make Crust: In a large bowl, mix together 1 1/2 cups flour, oil, milk, 1 1/2 teaspoons sugar and salt until evenly blended. Pat mixture into a 9 inch pie pan, spreading the dough evenly over the bottom and up sides. Crimp edges of the dough around the perimeter.
3. To Make Filling: Mix together 3/4 cup sugar, 3 tablespoons flour, cinnamon, and nutmeg. Sprinkle over apples and toss to coat. Spread evenly in unbaked pie shell.
4. To Make Topping: Using a pastry cutter, mix together 1/2 cup flour, 1/2 cup sugar and butter until evenly distributed and crumbly in texture. Sprinkle over apples.
5. Put pie in the oven on a cookie sheet to catch the juices that may spill over. Bake 45 minutes.

CastIron 02-20-07 10:30 PM

I'm sorry, but the recipe is not acceptable. It contains "Fuji apples" and is obviously comprised of foreign parts.

ken cummings 02-20-07 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by Namenda
Aberdeen is in England?!:eek:

I had no idea Kurt Cobain was British.:D

No, Aberdeen is in Scotland. Scotland is barely part of Great Britian.

WheresWaldo 02-20-07 10:50 PM

National Pie Day - January 23rd

Created by the American Pie Council, National Pie Day is dedicated to the celebration of pie. As part of our American heritage, this day is a perfect opportunity to pass on the love and enjoyment of pie eating and pie making to future generations.

Each year the American Pie Council sponsors the National Pie Championships where some of the best pie makers in the United States and Canada enter their pies to compete for the "American Pie Council's Best Pie in America" award. For more information on who has the best pies in America, click on "National Pie Championships" icon.

To celebrate National Pie Day share the warmth of the ultimate "comfort food" by giving the gift of pie to a friend or neighbor. Your generosity will be long remembered.

austinspinner 02-20-07 11:35 PM

This thread made me take a look around my DJ booth at work just now....

We have 18 various music production modules all made in china.
My computer, mouse, keyboard made in china.
My stapler, made in china.
Mirrors on the wall from target, made in china.
Silverware I just ate with, made in china.
Burned cd's made in china.

I am tempted to get an hand mirror and check my own ass just to make sure, since I was adopted after all.:D

Chinese exports in Us Billion
http://www.china-jiangsu.org/Img/export_big.jpg

botto 02-21-07 04:13 AM


Originally Posted by ken cummings
No, Aberdeen is in Scotland. Scotland is barely part of Great Britian.

incorrect.

Scotland is very much part of the Island of Great Britain.

One might argue that it is "barely" part of the United Kingdom, but that would be a discussion about politics.

Namenda 02-21-07 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by ken cummings
No, Aberdeen is in Scotland. Scotland is barely part of Great Britian.


Is that the Sean Connery outlook, or does he feel the opposite?

See, you folks are just confusing me now...

recneps 02-21-07 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by nitropowered
all Cannondales except the synapse is made in PA

Yeah the "Made in USA" on your Cannondale is a pretty generic term, this could easily mean the frame was welded in Taiwan and painted in the US, or assembled in the us.

deskjockey 02-21-07 09:52 AM

Let's not forget other flag-waving, Titanium bending, American manufacturers and designers such as Merlin, Spectrum Cyles, Indep. Fabrications, and ....

biker128pedal 02-21-07 06:39 PM

Pie day was last month.:p

biker128pedal 02-21-07 06:43 PM

The full aluminum Cannondales are US made. The carbon tubes in the Six13s are outsourced.

cmh 02-21-07 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by botto
incorrect.

Scotland is very much part of the Island of Great Britain.

One might argue that it is "barely" part of the United Kingdom, but that would be a discussion about politics.

If it's not Scottish, it's craaaap!

oilman_15106 02-21-07 10:54 PM

This is a link to an article about "Where is my bicycle made" very interesting

http://allanti.com/page.cfm?PageID=328

WheresWaldo 02-22-07 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by cmh
If it's not Scottish, it's craaaap!

Scotch Pie

Ingredients for the Meat Filling:
1 pound (500g or two cups) lean lamb, minced (ground)
Pinch of mace or nutmeg
Salt and pepper
Quarter pint (150ml) gravy
Ingredients for the Hot Water Pastry:
1 pound (500g or four cups) plain flour
6 ounces (175g or ¾ cup) lard
6 fluid ounces (225ml or ¾ cup) approximately of water
Pinch of salt
Milk for glazing
You will also need glasses or jars, approximately 3-3½ inches (7.5-8.5cm) in diameter to shape the pie.

Method:

Create the filling by mixing the minced (ground) lamb, spice and seasoning.

Make the pastry by sifting the flour and salt into a warm bowl. Make a well in the centre of the flour. Melt the lard in a scant measure of water and, when it is bubbling, add to the flour and mix thoroughly. Take a small amount (remember the mixture should make 8/10 pies, with their tops) and form into a ball and keep the rest warm while making each pastry case. This is done by rolling a suitable amount for each pie and shaping the crust round the base of a glass or jar approximately 3-3½ inches (7.5-8.5cm) in diameter. Make sure there are no cracks in the pastry - you can trim round the top of the case to make it even. As the pastry cools and gets cool, remove the glass and continue until you have about a quarter of the pastry left to make the lids.

Fill the cases with the meat and add the gravy to make the meat moist.

Roll the remaining pastry and use the glass to cut the lids. Wet the edges of the lids, place over the meat and press down lightly over the filling. Pinch the edges and trim. Cut a small hole or vent in the centre of the lid (to allow the steam to escape).

Glaze with milk and bake for about 45 minutes at 275F/140C/Gas mark 1. If the pies are not eaten immediately, they can be stored in the 'fridge but always ensure they are properly reheated before being eaten.

Large numbers of Scotch Pies are sold in Scotland every day - they are an original "fast food" and are often sold at the half-time interval at football (soccer) matches. The pies are made in special straight-sided moulds, roughly 3-3½ inches (7.5-8.5cm) in diameter and about 1½ inches (4cm) deep. A pastry lid, inside the pie, covers the meat about ½ inch (1cm) below the rim. This leaves a space at the top of the pie which can be filled, if required - with hot gravy, baked beans, mashed (creamed) potatoes etc. The meat is usually mutton (sometimes of varying quality). Many bakers have their own recipes and add spices to give additional flavour - there is now an annual competition for the best Scotch Pie.

giantcfr1 02-22-07 08:41 AM

I've notice a few people mention Cannondale being made in the USA except the Carbon Synapse.
I'm sure I've seen (no, I know I've seen) Aluminium Cannondales here with made in Taiwan on them.

botto 02-22-07 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by giantcfr1
I've notice a few people mention Cannondale being made in the USA except the Carbon Synapse.
I'm sure I've seen (no, I know I've seen) Aluminium Cannondales here with made in Taiwan on them.

Heresy!

http://www.wga.hu/art/l/le_gros/religion.jpg

giantcfr1 02-22-07 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by botto
Heresy!

woops ;) maybe I shouldn't have mentioned it. :D

recneps 02-22-07 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by biker128pedal
The full aluminum Cannondales are US made. The carbon tubes in the Six13s are outsourced.

and made in the USA mean what? Also follow that up with where you got your answer.

superslomo 02-22-07 10:08 AM

FWIW, according to their site, SRAM started out with a factory in the area of Chicago, IL.

They have since opened facilities in Taiwan, Ireland, Germany and Mexico.

I don't know what parts are manufactured in what proportion by country, but it's hard to give this the tiresome "blah blah made in Taiwan etc." schpiel.

Phantoj 02-22-07 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by recneps
and made in the USA mean what? Also follow that up with where you got your answer.


:rolleyes:

http://travel.discovery.com/tv/ratze...annondale.html

Why don't you prove that Cannondales are welded elsewhere? Even the lame "Adventure 400" says "Handmade in USA" on the seatstay...


Used to be the clothes and bags were made in Bedford, too... not anymore.


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