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botto 02-21-07 04:13 AM


Originally Posted by ken cummings
No, Aberdeen is in Scotland. Scotland is barely part of Great Britian.

incorrect.

Scotland is very much part of the Island of Great Britain.

One might argue that it is "barely" part of the United Kingdom, but that would be a discussion about politics.

Namenda 02-21-07 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by ken cummings
No, Aberdeen is in Scotland. Scotland is barely part of Great Britian.


Is that the Sean Connery outlook, or does he feel the opposite?

See, you folks are just confusing me now...

recneps 02-21-07 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by nitropowered
all Cannondales except the synapse is made in PA

Yeah the "Made in USA" on your Cannondale is a pretty generic term, this could easily mean the frame was welded in Taiwan and painted in the US, or assembled in the us.

deskjockey 02-21-07 09:52 AM

Let's not forget other flag-waving, Titanium bending, American manufacturers and designers such as Merlin, Spectrum Cyles, Indep. Fabrications, and ....

biker128pedal 02-21-07 06:39 PM

Pie day was last month.:p

biker128pedal 02-21-07 06:43 PM

The full aluminum Cannondales are US made. The carbon tubes in the Six13s are outsourced.

cmh 02-21-07 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by botto
incorrect.

Scotland is very much part of the Island of Great Britain.

One might argue that it is "barely" part of the United Kingdom, but that would be a discussion about politics.

If it's not Scottish, it's craaaap!

oilman_15106 02-21-07 10:54 PM

This is a link to an article about "Where is my bicycle made" very interesting

http://allanti.com/page.cfm?PageID=328

WheresWaldo 02-22-07 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by cmh
If it's not Scottish, it's craaaap!

Scotch Pie

Ingredients for the Meat Filling:
1 pound (500g or two cups) lean lamb, minced (ground)
Pinch of mace or nutmeg
Salt and pepper
Quarter pint (150ml) gravy
Ingredients for the Hot Water Pastry:
1 pound (500g or four cups) plain flour
6 ounces (175g or ¾ cup) lard
6 fluid ounces (225ml or ¾ cup) approximately of water
Pinch of salt
Milk for glazing
You will also need glasses or jars, approximately 3-3½ inches (7.5-8.5cm) in diameter to shape the pie.

Method:

Create the filling by mixing the minced (ground) lamb, spice and seasoning.

Make the pastry by sifting the flour and salt into a warm bowl. Make a well in the centre of the flour. Melt the lard in a scant measure of water and, when it is bubbling, add to the flour and mix thoroughly. Take a small amount (remember the mixture should make 8/10 pies, with their tops) and form into a ball and keep the rest warm while making each pastry case. This is done by rolling a suitable amount for each pie and shaping the crust round the base of a glass or jar approximately 3-3½ inches (7.5-8.5cm) in diameter. Make sure there are no cracks in the pastry - you can trim round the top of the case to make it even. As the pastry cools and gets cool, remove the glass and continue until you have about a quarter of the pastry left to make the lids.

Fill the cases with the meat and add the gravy to make the meat moist.

Roll the remaining pastry and use the glass to cut the lids. Wet the edges of the lids, place over the meat and press down lightly over the filling. Pinch the edges and trim. Cut a small hole or vent in the centre of the lid (to allow the steam to escape).

Glaze with milk and bake for about 45 minutes at 275F/140C/Gas mark 1. If the pies are not eaten immediately, they can be stored in the 'fridge but always ensure they are properly reheated before being eaten.

Large numbers of Scotch Pies are sold in Scotland every day - they are an original "fast food" and are often sold at the half-time interval at football (soccer) matches. The pies are made in special straight-sided moulds, roughly 3-3½ inches (7.5-8.5cm) in diameter and about 1½ inches (4cm) deep. A pastry lid, inside the pie, covers the meat about ½ inch (1cm) below the rim. This leaves a space at the top of the pie which can be filled, if required - with hot gravy, baked beans, mashed (creamed) potatoes etc. The meat is usually mutton (sometimes of varying quality). Many bakers have their own recipes and add spices to give additional flavour - there is now an annual competition for the best Scotch Pie.

giantcfr1 02-22-07 08:41 AM

I've notice a few people mention Cannondale being made in the USA except the Carbon Synapse.
I'm sure I've seen (no, I know I've seen) Aluminium Cannondales here with made in Taiwan on them.

botto 02-22-07 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by giantcfr1
I've notice a few people mention Cannondale being made in the USA except the Carbon Synapse.
I'm sure I've seen (no, I know I've seen) Aluminium Cannondales here with made in Taiwan on them.

Heresy!

http://www.wga.hu/art/l/le_gros/religion.jpg

giantcfr1 02-22-07 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by botto
Heresy!

woops ;) maybe I shouldn't have mentioned it. :D

recneps 02-22-07 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by biker128pedal
The full aluminum Cannondales are US made. The carbon tubes in the Six13s are outsourced.

and made in the USA mean what? Also follow that up with where you got your answer.

superslomo 02-22-07 10:08 AM

FWIW, according to their site, SRAM started out with a factory in the area of Chicago, IL.

They have since opened facilities in Taiwan, Ireland, Germany and Mexico.

I don't know what parts are manufactured in what proportion by country, but it's hard to give this the tiresome "blah blah made in Taiwan etc." schpiel.

Phantoj 02-22-07 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by recneps
and made in the USA mean what? Also follow that up with where you got your answer.


:rolleyes:

http://travel.discovery.com/tv/ratze...annondale.html

Why don't you prove that Cannondales are welded elsewhere? Even the lame "Adventure 400" says "Handmade in USA" on the seatstay...


Used to be the clothes and bags were made in Bedford, too... not anymore.


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