Where Frames Made
 

I am preparing to upgrade my old Trek lugged road frame with some kind of 022 tubing. I have been looking and have just started the test ride stag but have been wondering where the frames were made. I want a frame made in the old USA. Can anyone answer where the Lemond, Cannondale and Trek road frames are made. I know most if not all the Canondales are made in the USA but remener seeing in an article the Canondale full carbon frames were made overseas to meat a price point like the Trek 5000 then I read Cannondale made them overseas until their plant was up and running.

I was looking at a Synapse Carbon today an unlike the Six13 their was no marking. The Lemond Spine Technolgy Frames state made in USA but the Full Carbon frames don't. Also the Trek 5000 had not markings.

Thanks

Mike

Why do you hate the new USA?

It's too crowded. ;) But I figured "old" vs new would get a response. Just not a short one.

Some Treks, there for Lemonds are made by Giant in Taiwan. I ride a Giant and have been very happy with it.

Thanks JonnyV. I am just trying to be Patriotic. I did test ride a '06 Giant OCR Limited today. Good buy for $1,700 but it felt short.

Check out Dean bikes. They are pricey, but hand built in the USA frames to your measurements.

Spending money on imported goods is patriotic.

Therefore you should buy a Cervelo R3: designed by a Dutch guy, in Canada, and made in the Republic of China.

all Cannondales except the synapse is made in PA

Support children in devolping countries, buy a lemond or a trek; their hard work is going into your next bicycle.

These threads usually crack me up. The frame is usually the cheapest part of the whole bike. There is not a single component group that I know of that is made in the USA or for that matter the U.S.A. either. So it is a false sense of patriotism that you display buy saying you will only buy American when the bulk of the parts are from anywhere but America.

Don't flame me here, because I do buy many American things. I just realize that many of the things we think are American made are usually not completely American made.

Just so you know USA is a city in Japan.

Botto: I love both the old and new America, not fond of Usa, though!

if you really want to do something benevolent, get a custom frame from one of the many small american handbuilders who struggle to make a decent living do it the old fashioned way. I believe Davidson Cycles in Seattle does ti.

i love the usa-made ox platinum steel lemonds. like buttah.

http://www.mike-myers.net/gallery/da...a/27/linda.jpg

hmmm

on all my bikes, my frame is the most expensive part of the bike. isn't that how it should be? (no offense to people riding cheap frames with expensive groupo's)

example:

legend ti st - $4,095 dura-ace group - $1,500??

if crown jewel - $2,200 dura-ace group - $1,500?


cheers

I bought a litespeed because they are handcrafted by american grown-ups (so says the sticker on the seat tube), I don't like to buy from nike. I didn't buy an american made bike because I'm patriotic however, I'm canadian.

Yeah, very un patriotic of you to support old USA instead of new USA!

While I'm not the first owner and mine is steel I'm quite happy with my Davidson.

onkey, no offense, but just because the frames you bought sell for that much doesn't mean they are the most expensive parts to produce, or that they make up the majority of the bike you ride. You are paying for more than the sum of the parts. My comment was about cost and proportionality, even though I did not make that very clear in my post.

Serotta has a reputation and you are paying for that reputation as part of that $4100 price. Was it worth it? Obviously to you it was, because you bought it, is it worth it to me, no it isn't, I see a Ti frame with a commodity carbon rear triangle. I am not trying to say that there is not some value in the workmanship. I too own an American frame. I have a Klein, one actually made by Gary Klein himself, and I paid a pretty penny for it, do I think it was worth it? yes I do. Might you think so? maybe, maybe not.

I see parts that come from all over the world to make up a bike that is mostly foreign made. As I said in my previous post the frame is just a small part of a bike.

Now I don't want this to turn into a fight over semantics. The OP wants an American made bike, I just simply pointed out that the majority of a bike is not the frame. Regardless of the price paid for the frame that fact will not change. I also inferred that most of the parts that will hang on that expensive frame are from some country other than the U.S.A. and to suggest that it is an American made bike when the majority is foreign is not looking at the whole picture.

here's an incomplete list of builders who do ti and at least deserve a look. all here in the U.S.A.
Cherry Cycles
Fred Parr
Edge Cycles
David Wilson
Ogle Bike Works
Dean
Desalvo
James Frames
Roark Custom Bicycles
Primus Mootry
Gilmour
Rex Cycles
Kish
Kelson
HiTi
Holland
El Camino Fabrication
Rogue Cycles
Sramek
Strong
Zanotti
Ti Cycles
not to say that Sevens aren't great. I just met a couple who bought a pair for their 25th wedding anniversary and love em. If you're friends all have Sevens already though, why not do something different?

operative keyword being "usually"
plus, other relevant components being wheels, saddle, cockpit
plus, no need to continually flaunt your stuff

Serotta Fierte Steel
http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/856/madeinusajy3.jpg
Ellsworth Flight
http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/6...bebadge7if.jpg
TST Titanium
http://img334.imageshack.us/img334/2...dbuilt21sr.jpg

I wasn't trying to dissuade the OP from buying American, I was just pointing out that you need to be aware that a frame is not a bike. I do agree that buying from an American company does support many people besides the actual builder of the frame, but you get those same benefits you mentioned from nearly all businesses that do business in the U.S.A.

Nearly every product sold in America, regardless of origin, has to be transported, warehoused, displayed, inventoried, accounted for, the list of Americans that touch these products goes on and on. Each one of these gets a "piece of the pie." Why arbitrarily limit yourself when it may not really be necessary.

Trek makes the Madone in USA but the rest it's China,I asked Trek because like you I'm not sure about Chinese made carbon quailty and the fact 1 factory makes like 5 companies bikes but we pay based on USA made quailty bikes.It's like buying a Fender Srat USA and a squire china made not the same.

Not all U.S.A made Titanium frames are expensive. Habanero was not included in the list above.
http://www.habcycles.com/ $795 for a stock geometry TI road frame, $1195 for custom.

Habanero frames are not made in the U.S., they're made in China.

This reply won't help the OP but anyway....What about the components? Shifters, wheels, carbon forks,handle bars, carbon seatpost, no way will these items be made in the USA. Kinda like buying a Harley Davidson then customiziing it with aftermarket products not made in the U.S.A. Go figure.
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