Analyze my training ride from today.
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Analyze my training ride from today.
I just got back from a short but hilly ride. 24 miles with 2,400 ft of climbing. Set a PR by 8 minutes. (Whoot Whoot.) This is the first time back on the bike in 7 days (way down from my usual 150 to 200 miles per week.) I did run 12 miles on Sunday though.
I don't know if it's because I am rested and able to push harder or if it was the late afternoon Starbucks (caffeine) or the warm temperature, but my avg HR was ridiculously high. Average HR for the ride was in Zone 4.4. For reference, what is the LT? Isn't that around 90% Max HR?
https://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/2820114
Heart Rate Data Avg Low High
Heart Rate (%max) 84 54 94
Heart Rate (zone) 4.4 1.5 5.5
Heart Rate (bpm) 163 106 184
Heart Rate
Time (t) Distance (d) Speed (s)
Zone 0 0-50
00:00:00 (t) 0.00 (d) 0.0 (s)
Zone 1 50-59
00:00:26 0.04 6.0
Zone 2 59-69
00:00:28 0.11 14.0
Zone 3 69-79
00:19:19 5.80 18.0
Zone 4 79-89
01:00:48 14.92 14.7
Zone 5 89-100
00:11:46 2.61 13.3
I don't know if it's because I am rested and able to push harder or if it was the late afternoon Starbucks (caffeine) or the warm temperature, but my avg HR was ridiculously high. Average HR for the ride was in Zone 4.4. For reference, what is the LT? Isn't that around 90% Max HR?
https://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/2820114
Heart Rate Data Avg Low High
Heart Rate (%max) 84 54 94
Heart Rate (zone) 4.4 1.5 5.5
Heart Rate (bpm) 163 106 184
Heart Rate
Time (t) Distance (d) Speed (s)
Zone 0 0-50
00:00:00 (t) 0.00 (d) 0.0 (s)
Zone 1 50-59
00:00:26 0.04 6.0
Zone 2 59-69
00:00:28 0.11 14.0
Zone 3 69-79
00:19:19 5.80 18.0
Zone 4 79-89
01:00:48 14.92 14.7
Zone 5 89-100
00:11:46 2.61 13.3
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Originally Posted by Plow13
thats not hilly...come to pittsburgh, we will show you hills
2,400 ft over 24 miles isn't too shabby.
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my first thought is, how have you determined you MAX HR? just maxed observed or did you do some type of specific MAX HR workout? maybe your max is higher then you think? later.
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Originally Posted by aham23
my first thought is, how have you determined you MAX HR? just maxed observed or did you do some type of specific MAX HR workout? maybe your max is higher then you think? later.
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Originally Posted by MIN
Haven't determined my "true max" - this is based on the default formula. But my comments on my high HR was based on having done this route with a much lower avg HR before.
2) Don't worry about your average speed. Rather do intervals targeted to the particular ability you're working on.
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
1)Until the zones are set for you, rather than by formula, no one can do any really meaningful analysis.
2) Don't worry about your average speed. Rather do intervals targeted to the particular ability you're working on.
2) Don't worry about your average speed. Rather do intervals targeted to the particular ability you're working on.
2) Avg speed? I don't think I mentioned speed at at. Particularly on hills, I am concerned with HR above all.
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^^^^ "Set a PR by 8 minutes"
And the relative comparisons aren't very meaningful. If you're training by Zones, you're trying to work within certain zones to accomplish certain things. You have to know your zones for the whole concept to work.
And the relative comparisons aren't very meaningful. If you're training by Zones, you're trying to work within certain zones to accomplish certain things. You have to know your zones for the whole concept to work.
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
^^^^ "Set a PR by 8 minutes"
And the relative comparisons aren't very meaningful. If you're training by Zones, you're trying to work within certain zones to accomplish certain things. You have to know your zones for the whole concept to work.
And the relative comparisons aren't very meaningful. If you're training by Zones, you're trying to work within certain zones to accomplish certain things. You have to know your zones for the whole concept to work.
How much variability is there in max HR? For example, default is 195 bpm and if my "true max" was 200 bpm, then that's only 2.5% variance. I am 26 years old.
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Originally Posted by Plow13
thats not hilly...come to pittsburgh, we will show you hills