classy new frameset needed
07-02-03, 04:38 PM
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classy new frameset needed
what are the top quality lightweight road framesets atm ? I can only think of colnago, bianchi, pinarello, and de rosa
07-02-03, 05:55 PM
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Serotta comes to mind.
Off the rack Fondriest comes to mind.
Don't really know what would fit your preferences and riding style.
Rivendell would be more down my alley.
Off the rack Fondriest comes to mind.
Don't really know what would fit your preferences and riding style.
Rivendell would be more down my alley.
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You might want to look at Erickson Cycles too. I have never seen lugs so beautiful on a modern bike than ones built by Glenn Erickson.
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Also Cannondale CAAD7, Mercx, Look, Time, Klein, Orbea, Cervelo, Moots, Torelli.
I think you need to define your usage a little more than lightweight road frame.
I think you need to define your usage a little more than lightweight road frame.
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FONDRIEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Uh... errr... sorry... I was channeling.
Uh... errr... sorry... I was channeling.
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I'm kinda crazy about the Cannondale bikes right now. Just saw a yellow R600 the other day (I know, not top o' the line). How about the R5000?
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how about Tommasini?
www.tommasiniusa.com
i have seen several built up...my next road bike will probably be the steel/carbon frame one
the Merlin Ti bikes painted glossy black are also very elegent, light...and expensive!!!
www.tommasiniusa.com
i have seen several built up...my next road bike will probably be the steel/carbon frame one
the Merlin Ti bikes painted glossy black are also very elegent, light...and expensive!!!
07-03-03, 01:20 AM
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Originally posted by Gene K
Also Cannondale CAAD7, Mercx, Look, Time, Klein, Orbea, Cervelo, Moots, Torelli.
I think you need to define your usage a little more than lightweight road frame.
Also Cannondale CAAD7, Mercx, Look, Time, Klein, Orbea, Cervelo, Moots, Torelli.
I think you need to define your usage a little more than lightweight road frame.
Canondale Mercx, Time etc may be expensive but hardly classy I am talking about something with heritage and prestige like Colnago This bike will have to have the class of Ferrari and Porsche and Maserati not a mass produced frame with no history.(albeit expensive)
Usage well it really has no bearing here If its well built you could use it it for a summer training run or the occasional road race or just a posy Sunday club run
07-03-03, 01:26 AM
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Originally posted by bandaidman
how about Tommasini?
www.tommasiniusa.com
i have seen several built up...my next road bike will probably be the steel/carbon frame one
the Merlin Ti bikes painted glossy black are also very elegent, light...and expensive!!!
how about Tommasini?
www.tommasiniusa.com
i have seen several built up...my next road bike will probably be the steel/carbon frame one
the Merlin Ti bikes painted glossy black are also very elegent, light...and expensive!!!
Ahh! Tommassini now you are talking!..
Hand made in steel with gorgeous lugwork just look at the Sintessi mmmmmm. this is one definitely on my top 10 list thanks bandaid
07-03-03, 01:30 AM
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This bike will have to have the class of Ferrari and Porsche and Maserati not a mass produced frame with no history
This bike will have to have the class of Ferrari and Porsche and Maserati not a mass produced frame with no history
EXCUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSE US!
(BTW, I like Colnagos)
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Pegoretti for sure, Gios, Guerciotti, Ciocc if you can find one, and Coppi. On the whole I find most frames to be good these days though I still prefer DeRosa, Pegoretti, Look and of course Litespeed!
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Depends if you are looking for techno-cool or trad.
There are hundreds of small-scale custom steel framebuilders with great reputations who compare very well to the larger scale commercial/industrail frame-builders. You get to choose the geometry, paintwork and braze-ons.
Henryjames.com will direct you to the best US ones.
Do check out Bohemian Cycles, who do the very finest lug-work, they are works of art as well as great frames.
In the UK, we have Bob Jackson, Mercian, Mr Steel, Condor.....
Torelli do some of the better Italian builders like Mondonico.
For a lightweight Al, Principia from Denmark is the choice of pro riders who buy their own frames and Stork from Germany are most excellent.
For TI, you are best with a US company like Seven, or than wonderfull looking Carbon/ti from Merlin.
For Carbon, dont forget Look and Time as well as Calfee and Kestrel.
There are hundreds of small-scale custom steel framebuilders with great reputations who compare very well to the larger scale commercial/industrail frame-builders. You get to choose the geometry, paintwork and braze-ons.
Henryjames.com will direct you to the best US ones.
Do check out Bohemian Cycles, who do the very finest lug-work, they are works of art as well as great frames.
In the UK, we have Bob Jackson, Mercian, Mr Steel, Condor.....
Torelli do some of the better Italian builders like Mondonico.
For a lightweight Al, Principia from Denmark is the choice of pro riders who buy their own frames and Stork from Germany are most excellent.
For TI, you are best with a US company like Seven, or than wonderfull looking Carbon/ti from Merlin.
For Carbon, dont forget Look and Time as well as Calfee and Kestrel.
07-03-03, 05:52 AM
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Originally posted by MichaelW
Depends if you are looking for techno-cool or trad.
There are hundreds of small-scale custom steel framebuilders with great reputations who compare very well to the larger scale commercial/industrail frame-builders. You get to choose the geometry, paintwork and braze-ons.
Henryjames.com will direct you to the best US ones.
Do check out Bohemian Cycles, who do the very finest lug-work, they are works of art as well as great frames.
In the UK, we have Bob Jackson, Mercian, Mr Steel, Condor.....
Torelli do some of the better Italian builders like Mondonico.
For a lightweight Al, Principia from Denmark is the choice of pro riders who buy their own frames and Stork from Germany are most excellent.
For TI, you are best with a US company like Seven, or than wonderfull looking Carbon/ti from Merlin.
For Carbon, dont forget Look and Time as well as Calfee and Kestrel.
Depends if you are looking for techno-cool or trad.
There are hundreds of small-scale custom steel framebuilders with great reputations who compare very well to the larger scale commercial/industrail frame-builders. You get to choose the geometry, paintwork and braze-ons.
Henryjames.com will direct you to the best US ones.
Do check out Bohemian Cycles, who do the very finest lug-work, they are works of art as well as great frames.
In the UK, we have Bob Jackson, Mercian, Mr Steel, Condor.....
Torelli do some of the better Italian builders like Mondonico.
For a lightweight Al, Principia from Denmark is the choice of pro riders who buy their own frames and Stork from Germany are most excellent.
For TI, you are best with a US company like Seven, or than wonderfull looking Carbon/ti from Merlin.
For Carbon, dont forget Look and Time as well as Calfee and Kestrel.
no no no Michael W !
none of these have the class factor of Colnago or De Rosa etc They are all nice bikes for sure but not what I am looking for at all. Its the difference between a Saville Row suit and one from a quality local tailor you see?
I definately want traditional hand built in steel with nice lugs ( not necessarily fancy) with nice detailing and gorgeous paint job it has to be like a one off made to measure by a master builder.
Kestrel ? you cannot be serious (Mcinroe voice)
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Sycip Frames...
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Originally posted by dexmax
Sycip Frames...
Sycip Frames...
Sycip ********************?? who the heck are they??
jeez dex at least read the thread to get an idea of what we are on about here.
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I'm w/ dex and some others.seven,merlin,sycip,independent fabrications,waterford.All realy nice handbuilt custom frames.Of course i'm a mtb biker just getting into road biking,so.............
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Rivendell does custom frames now. I like their frames, but not their retro component choices. Photographs don't do them justice; I saw their 'cheapo' on the road a couple weeks ago. It was just gorgeous.Seven strikes me as being especially successful at custom work; Seven owners are a happy bunch.
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you want class?
you want modern? Lugged steel?
Richard Sachs only thing is about 1 1/2 year wait.
Richard Moon, Kirk Pacenti, Dave Kirk (see what are
you riding for examples), Weigle.
Fred Parr.
these are all custom, steel frames.
Vanilla- newish builder good reputation.
Pegoretti as previously mentioned.
Albert Eisentraut the father of modern US framebuilders
is still building in Oakland Ca. (Fillet brazed and lugged).
Serotta (but Ben is moving away from classic lugged steel).
Orbea, Olmo, Torelli for more traditional off the rack
steel frames.
Zinn (as in Leonard Zinn) builds a nice frame.
That should do for a start along with all the others
that have been mentioned.
Marty
you want modern? Lugged steel?
Richard Sachs only thing is about 1 1/2 year wait.
Richard Moon, Kirk Pacenti, Dave Kirk (see what are
you riding for examples), Weigle.
Fred Parr.
these are all custom, steel frames.
Vanilla- newish builder good reputation.
Pegoretti as previously mentioned.
Albert Eisentraut the father of modern US framebuilders
is still building in Oakland Ca. (Fillet brazed and lugged).
Serotta (but Ben is moving away from classic lugged steel).
Orbea, Olmo, Torelli for more traditional off the rack
steel frames.
Zinn (as in Leonard Zinn) builds a nice frame.
That should do for a start along with all the others
that have been mentioned.
Marty
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Fondriest, Orbea, Decathlon, Bianchi, Principia, and a lot more exotic Bikes
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I thought the original poster wanted lugged steel frames. Since some people are mentioning carbon, I guess I'll have to throw in my vote for Aegis. 
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