Kabuki Submariner
06-29-07 | 08:11 PM
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Kabuki Submariner
My dad gave me is 1977 Kabuki Submariner which is in mint shape. Is this bike worth bringing back to life with some new parts ie, more speeds, derailers, brakes etc. How are these bikes? I know it has a stainless steel frame.
06-29-07 | 09:29 PM
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"Kabuki submariner" sounds like something that's defined on urbandictionary.com. 
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06-29-07 | 09:42 PM
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^^^ are you sure it's not just chrome plated? I honestly don't know of any bikes made in the 70's with SS.
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06-29-07 | 09:52 PM
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Steel bikes are made with AL lugs? I guess I'd never heard of that.
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06-29-07 | 10:02 PM
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From Sheldon Brown:
"The Kabuki line used some unusual construction techniques, specifically, they had a system of sticking the frame tubes into a special mold and forming cast aluminum "lugs" in place around the ends of the tubes. The most notable of this line was the "Submariner" which used un-painted stainless steel tubing, and was marketed in seacoast areas for its rust-resistance. Because the cast aluminum lugs were not flexible like steel lugs, these bikes didn't use a conventional seat-post binder. Instead, they used a seatpost with an expander wedge like that of a handlebar stem...you had to remove the saddle from the seatpost to adjust the height, then re-install the saddle! Even sillier, many of these frames had what looked like a conventional seatpost bolt mounted in a projection of the rigid lug, simply to provide a place to mount a cable stop for the center-pull caliper brake!"
I'd post this in the Classic & Vintage forum for more response.
"The Kabuki line used some unusual construction techniques, specifically, they had a system of sticking the frame tubes into a special mold and forming cast aluminum "lugs" in place around the ends of the tubes. The most notable of this line was the "Submariner" which used un-painted stainless steel tubing, and was marketed in seacoast areas for its rust-resistance. Because the cast aluminum lugs were not flexible like steel lugs, these bikes didn't use a conventional seat-post binder. Instead, they used a seatpost with an expander wedge like that of a handlebar stem...you had to remove the saddle from the seatpost to adjust the height, then re-install the saddle! Even sillier, many of these frames had what looked like a conventional seatpost bolt mounted in a projection of the rigid lug, simply to provide a place to mount a cable stop for the center-pull caliper brake!"
I'd post this in the Classic & Vintage forum for more response.
06-29-07 | 10:08 PM
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Well, I'd ride it and see if it fits and if you even like it before you start putting money into it. I wouldn't go with a modern drivetrain, just replace worn out parts.
06-29-07 | 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by el twe
" they used a seatpost with an expander wedge like that of a handlebar stem...you had to remove the saddle from the seatpost to adjust the height, then re-install the saddle!
04-20-12 | 04:19 PM
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Dude, you gotta go to the Classic and Vintage section. We know all about the Submariner. I would tend to keep it original. What do you need more than 10 speeds for anyway? Look for vintage parts on ebay to replace any faulty parts. But I would bet a good clean and lube would bring it back to life.
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