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vpkb 08-28-07 07:49 PM

socalrider, i just bought that pump because i saw your link, i hope it works as you say

socalrider 09-04-07 01:29 AM

I have 3 of them and they work great.. I did the same thing, bought one to make sure it works and then bought 2 more for my other bikes.. The seller also sells co2 for a good price and will usually combine shipping if you need some cartridges..

mihlbach 09-04-07 05:27 AM

It really depends on the ride. On a long solo ride far from home, I bring both because you just never know whats going to happen. I got caught with a flat once in an extreme downpour and my pump got so waterlogged it stopped working. If its a more local ride with a friend or two, I typically bring only CO2. When commuting it easiest to just toss the frame pump in the back pack.

Mariner Fan 09-04-07 05:36 AM

Both.....

merlinextraligh 09-04-07 06:23 AM

This pump actually works. You can get to 100psi without too much trouble, although it will take a few strokes.

It weighs about the same as a C02 inflater and a cartridge, and it fits in a small seat bag. And no matter how many flats you have, you don't run out of air.

http://www.excelsports.com/image200/...oad%20Pump.jpg


Silca Mini pump

vpkb 09-10-07 12:45 AM

here's mine, co2 and manual, will fit in a small seat bag or fame mounted as pictured:

http://vpkb.onlinestoragesolution.com/IF/_MG_6315.jpg

Wkend_Warrior 09-10-07 01:51 AM


Originally Posted by vpkb (Post 5240275)
here's mine, co2 and manual, will fit in a small seat bag or fame mounted as pictured:

http://vpkb.onlinestoragesolution.com/IF/_MG_6315.jpg

VPKB,
If you dont mind, please give your opinion of this product after you test it out.
Thanks.

derath 09-10-07 05:59 AM

Both actually.

But kind of by accident.

I have a Road morph, that I stopped using on my road bike. My nicely sculpted CF frame didn't have a nice straight section anywhere to fit the road morph.

I went on a trip and forgot a pump, so I bought a CO2 inflator when i rented a bike just in case.

I later added a topeak micro rocket, because I don't trust the fleeting nature of CO2. I still keep the CO2 since I already own it. Plus the micro rocket + CO2 is still lighter and smaller than the road morph.

-D

patentcad 09-10-07 06:02 AM


Originally Posted by derath (Post 5240609)
Both actually.

But kind of by accident.

I have a Road morph, that I stopped using on my road bike. My nicely sculpted CF frame didn't have a nice straight section anywhere to fit the road morph.

I went on a trip and forgot a pump, so I bought a CO2 inflator when i rented a bike just in case.


I later added a topeak micro rocket, because I don't trust the fleeting nature of CO2. I still keep the CO2 since I already own it. Plus the micro rocket + CO2 is still lighter and smaller than the road morph.

Correct. C02 is the primary inflation source. The micro rocket is a highly portable and super light back-up. I've used that scheme for 2.5 years now. I have only had to resort to the micro ONCE, and it worked beautifully. It does take something like 300 strokes to get your tire near 90-100lbs, but that only takes about 4 mins. Faster than walking home in your Sidis.

To my knowledge the micro is the only pump that fits in a spare water bottle (that's how I often carry flat fixing crap). It is without question the coolest bike pump I've ever owned. For a pump that small to deliver that much inflation mojo is the Bicycle Tech Innovation of the 21st Century.

Again, the micro is a BACK-UP. Typically the one C02 cartridge never fails and I'm inflated in about 3 seconds. But it's great to know I have another option that will always work.

vpkb 09-16-07 11:51 PM


Originally Posted by Wkend_Warrier (Post 5240345)
VPKB,
If you dont mind, please give your opinion of this product after you test it out.
Thanks.

The pump works great, tested the c02 and manual. I'd rather be a p*ssy and save my energy and time on something else other than stroking. It's not that heavy, weighs much less than a full water bottle.

I switched the mounting location:
http://vpkb.onlinestoragesolution.com/IF/fullbike.jpg

v1k1ng1001 09-17-07 12:58 AM

I despise carrying a pump. 16g CO2 + cell phone is all I need for most rides. I'm not really concerned about finishing the ride, limping home is good enough.

As far as that goes, I ride Krylion Carbons so I rarely flat as it is.

ridethecliche 09-17-07 01:13 AM


Originally Posted by vpkb (Post 5281476)
The pump works great, tested the c02 and manual. I'd rather be a p*ssy and save my energy and time on something else other than stroking. It's not that heavy, weighs much less than a full water bottle.

I switched the mounting location:
http://vpkb.onlinestoragesolution.com/IF/fullbike.jpg

That bike looks really really pretty...

I carry the road morph with me. I've never had to use it, but I constantly use it to top off tires to 120 psi and it's easy to pump into it at even that high of a pressure.

Trufance 09-17-07 01:14 AM

my pump is 2-in-1

co2 and hand pump

if i had to choose one, i'd go with co2

i hate when i rip my stem, worst feeling ever

Bontrager 09-17-07 07:31 AM

:eek::eek::eek: I can't believe you'd put that fugly pump next to your CF bottle holder and matching OCP Campy bottle!


Originally Posted by Scooper (Post 5159891)
Topeak Road Morph on my seat tube (via bottle cage bosses).

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7...kRoadMorph.jpg


Bontrager 09-17-07 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by ridethecliche (Post 5281623)
That bike looks really really pretty...

http://vpkb.onlinestoragesolution.com/IF/fullbike.jpg

Hey! That frame and fork looks identical to my CF SuperGo Scattante! Except white.

MHR224 09-17-07 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by cyclezealot (Post 5161832)
Co2 is a one shot deal. When it's gone, you'r done for. I first started out with CO2. And I once got stuck. never more

Agreed.

I had same problem. Carried 4 c02's and 4 spares. 5 miles on my way back home last tube running low had no C02's left and barely made it by the hair of my chinny chin chin. I will never just carry a c02 inflater. I ALWAYS bring a pump.

yeamac 09-17-07 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by MHR224 (Post 5282355)
I had same problem. Carried 4 c02's and 4 spares. 5 miles on my way back home last tube running low had no C02's left and barely made it by the hair of my chinny chin chin.

I don't know where you people ride, but I've ridden over 2500 miles this year on roads/paved trails and only flatted once and had to use one of my two CO2 cartridges. I carry 2 CO2, 1 tube, patch kit. Has worked great for me so far. Plus I always have my cell phone...

MHR224 09-17-07 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by yeamac (Post 5282986)
I don't know where you people ride, but I've ridden over 2500 miles this year on roads/paved trails and only flatted once and had to use one of my two CO2 cartridges. I carry 2 CO2, 1 tube, patch kit. Has worked great for me so far. Plus I always have my cell phone...

I dont know where you're from but where I ride in NM there are tons of goat heads laying around and will easily puncture a tire. I usually replace a tube a ride. AT LEAST.

Trsnrtr 09-17-07 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by yeamac (Post 5282986)
I don't know where you people ride, but I've ridden over 2500 miles this year on roads/paved trails and only flatted once and had to use one of my two CO2 cartridges. I carry 2 CO2, 1 tube, patch kit. Has worked great for me so far. Plus I always have my cell phone...

It's kind of a Risk Quotient thing. People like you (and me) accept a certain amount of risk in life and continue on enjoying ourselves because we know that 4+ flats is probably a once in a lifetime anomoly, or at least I've never experienced a ride like that in 145,000+ adult miles.

For the record, I carry three carts, two or three tubes, a tire boot and a small backup pump that I wouldn't use except in the most dire circumstances. And, I feel that I'm being overly cautious. :D

Pharmr 09-17-07 02:03 PM

CO2 for me....I carry 2 carts...and it's all I've ever needed.

CastIron 09-17-07 04:04 PM

Customarily both. If I've got something going on where I'm wound up about weight (like a race w/ no wheel support) I'll just carry CO2, but always two carts taped together. Sometimes you want speed, sometimes reliability, for less than a pound I carry both.

dekindy 09-17-07 04:15 PM

I carry a pump, CO2, and 2 spare tubes, tire boots, tire tools, and a patch kit.

The pump is to get started so you can check for a pinched tube. CO2 in case pump breaks or I am too tired to use the pump or possibly injured if I flatted on a hill and wrecked. 2 spare tubes because if you are not careful you can twist off a valve stem using a frame pump or you can hand someone a tube without worrying about flatting. Finally, patch kit in case you are on a group ride and unexpectedly hit some glass that causes several people to flat and resources are spread thin. Maybe overkill, but if you ride a lot of miles and group rides it will come in handy some day. There is nothing worse than being in the middle of nowhere and having to walk or call for help.

If you are worried about weight, at the minimum I would carry a mini-pump and spare tube. CO2 would not be a bad idea. Some mini-pumps can attach a CO2 cartridge so you do not have to have the CO2 inflator taking up space and adding weight.

delmont425 09-17-07 07:34 PM

Both. No sense being stranded when you can avoid it.


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