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Old 08-28-07 | 01:24 AM
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Pump or CO2 inflators or both?

What do you carry to reinflate?
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Old 08-28-07 | 01:32 AM
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Old 08-28-07 | 02:04 AM
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pump. WTF would you carry BOTH? that's just doubling your weight penalty. A pump can inflate any number of tires, any number of times. Plus, you can use it to make funny noises against your armpit at rest stops, or beat dogs with, or stick in the wheelsucker's front wheel a la Team Cinzano.

anyway, CO2's for pusssies: if you can't use a hand pump to inflate your tires, maybe you'd better stick to knitting.
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Old 08-28-07 | 02:41 AM
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Old 08-28-07 | 03:39 AM
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Old 08-28-07 | 04:28 AM
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pump, i dont like the idea of potentially "running out", as can be the case with CO2
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Old 08-28-07 | 05:11 AM
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pump. WTF would you carry BOTH? that's just doubling your weight penalty. A pump can inflate any number of tires, any number of times. Plus, you can use it to make funny noises against your armpit at rest stops, or beat dogs with, or stick in the wheelsucker's front wheel a la Team Cinzano.

anyway, CO2's for pusssies: if you can't use a hand pump to inflate your tires, maybe you'd better stick to knitting.
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I use a Blackburn. Go with a full size, not a mini pump
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Old 08-28-07 | 06:10 AM
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I've become rather cavalier about the whole thing, but that's more a consequence of my riding habits than anything. First, I'm very careful about tire pressure -- I've had all of one pinch flat in recent memory, and that was due to an colossal, unavoidable pothole. Next, I my best to avoid glass, etc like anybody else, and keep an eye on my tires, replacing them before they are a problem. Finally, these days either I'm commuting in NYC (so have a subway bail-out option) or riding with friends on the weekends. Between 2-5 of us there are always options; safety in numbers!

So, the upshot is that sometimes I'll only carry an air chuck and a couple of CO2 carts. Other times I'll take a puny mini-pump / inflater combo. The mini-pump sucks, I'll be honest, but it's better than nothing. I'm not crazy, though: when I'm traveling and / or riding unfamiliar roads I sometimes will pack the Road Morph into my Camelbak. The Road Morph is pretty bad @ss.

I haven't been screwed with this protocol yet so I plan to stick to it.
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Old 08-28-07 | 07:15 AM
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pump. WTF would you carry BOTH? that's just doubling your weight penalty. A pump can inflate any number of tires, any number of times. Plus, you can use it to make funny noises against your armpit at rest stops, or beat dogs with, or stick in the wheelsucker's front wheel a la Team Cinzano.

anyway, CO2's for pusssies: if you can't use a hand pump to inflate your tires, maybe you'd better stick to knitting.
Incorrect. Most smaller pumps can't inflate for sh*t, and who the hell wants to carry around a big old pump? AND, no freakin way I attach one to my frame - oy vey. CO2 is also much faster, and lighter.

And why do you hate knitting? I have some wonderful mittens that might change your attitude - or maybe a nice shawl.

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Old 08-28-07 | 07:20 AM
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Both. You need a pump to get the tire started so you can check for a pinched tube. Carry co2 in case pump breaks or I am too tired, multiple flats, etc. I use a full size Blackburn frame pump.

I have one of these ordered.
https://www.velo-orange.com/quickerpropump.html
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Old 08-28-07 | 07:55 AM
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CO2. Definitely CO2. And of you're worried about running out, you can always just carry more.
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Old 08-28-07 | 08:00 AM
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Co2, although i just ordered to Topeak Road Morph.
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Old 08-28-07 | 08:15 AM
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Barbieri Carb One on my downtube (via bottle holder screws) and Genuine Innovations mini attachment with 2 CO2 canisters
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Old 08-28-07 | 08:30 AM
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Topeak Road Morph on my seat tube (via bottle cage bosses).

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Old 08-28-07 | 09:35 AM
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If you ride with a large group that waits for flats/mechanicals, you should definitely carry CO2 and a spare tube. If people are waiting for you, you should be as fast as possible.

Old tube out: check for sharp objects coming through tire: new tube in: CO2: go. 2-3 minutes
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Old 08-28-07 | 09:43 AM
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I have a pump that does both.. It only takes threaded cartridges but works quite well..

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Old 08-28-07 | 09:58 AM
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see my previous post about how co2 is not my friend.
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Old 08-28-07 | 10:03 AM
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Topeak Road Morph on my seat tube (via bottle cage bosses).
+ eleventy billion. Mine's on my downtube. co2 for wussies. And I'll bet I can inflate a tire to 100 psi with a Road Morph in 15 or 20 seconds. If that's too long to wait, I don't need to ride with those folks, anywhoo.
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Old 08-28-07 | 10:51 AM
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MicroFlate, (2) 16g cartridges and a small pump.
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Old 08-28-07 | 11:10 AM
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Both. You need a pump to get the tire started so you can check for a pinched tube. Carry co2 in case pump breaks or I am too tired, multiple flats, etc. I use a full size Blackburn frame pump.

I have one of these ordered.
https://www.velo-orange.com/quickerpropump.html
Why not TWO pumps and C02?
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Old 08-28-07 | 11:19 AM
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Old 08-28-07 | 11:24 AM
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Here we go again. Are we up to twice a week now? All anyone needs:
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Old 08-28-07 | 01:04 PM
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Here we go again. Are we up to twice a week now? All anyone needs:
Seems like twice a week. Maybe some of these threads should be stickies so we can ignore them.

I have one of those ... heavy but good. Bent it a bit over the snout of a dog in the spring ... still works though.
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Old 08-28-07 | 01:09 PM
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Co2 is a one shot deal. When it's gone, you'r done for. I first started out with CO2. And I once got stuck. never more
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Old 08-28-07 | 03:11 PM
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I use a frame pump. It clips under the top tube - my LHT has a little stud on the back on the backside of the head tube that fits into a littl hole in the end of the pump, so no velcro straps, etc. Makes it quick-draw if I have to use it on a dog.

On my mountain bike I use one of those "compact" pumps that fit to a bracket that mounts to the bottle bracket bosses on the seat tube.

On my old Ross 10-speed I have a Pyramid brand frame pump - in chrome (or at least polished aluminum) - that clips into a couple of little nylon brackets on the downtube.
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