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Old 09-25-07 | 03:56 PM
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I see the lack of necessity for these devices on road bikes, but what about mountain bikes? Are they acceptable on the trail?
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Old 09-25-07 | 04:00 PM
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Not if you properly adjust your derailleurs. I used to own a hardtail and rode the heck out of it up and down the gnarliest trails I could find. I never had a dork disc and never found myself needing one.
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Old 09-25-07 | 04:05 PM
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I see the lack of necessity for these devices on road bikes, but what about mountain bikes? Are they acceptable on the trail?
Depends if you believe you'll unknowingly get a bent derailleur hanger. A slightly obscure problem, but not impossible.
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Old 09-25-07 | 04:13 PM
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Sounds like the dork-disk needs to go before I further compromise my reputation!
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Old 09-25-07 | 04:23 PM
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Huh? If you broke a chain, wouldn't the rear derailler move the opposite direction? (towards the smallest cogs)
The inward/outward movement of the derailler is controlled by the derailler cable, not the chain. The chain breaking wouldn't cause the derailler to move in or out.
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Old 09-25-07 | 04:26 PM
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Oh...and before I learned how to work on my own bike, I had an old diamonback mtb with a dork disk. There were tabs that held it to the spokes and once they broke off the disk started rattling. My solution? Zip ties! I actually drilled three holes through the disk and used little zip ties to re-attach it to the spokes! Doh!
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Old 09-25-07 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Avalanche325

Fenders

They are also all dorky.
Riding with mud on your back and legs is more dorky. Not to mention uncomfortable.
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Old 09-25-07 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Avalanche325
These are also useful items:

Wheel reflectors
Fenders
Chain gaurds
Front and rear reflectors
4ft high neon safety flags
hub cleaner straps
helmet mirrors

They are also all dorky.
Yes, several of those, especially the 4 ft flag, are dorky, but as aMull said, riding with mud on your self and clothes is worse. And I believe wheel reflectors are mandatory by law in my province.
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Old 09-25-07 | 05:27 PM
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Yes, several of those, especially the 4 ft flag, are dorky, but as aMull said, riding with mud on your self and clothes is worse. And I believe wheel reflectors are mandatory by law in my province.
I live in southern California. What's this mud thing you are talking about???
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Old 09-25-07 | 05:54 PM
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don't they have mudslides in california?
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Old 09-25-07 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by rooftest
Huh? If you broke a chain, wouldn't the rear derailler move the opposite direction? (towards the smallest cogs)
What happened to me (on a new bike with less than 500mi) is one side of the chain broke causing a single link to make a V shape which the caught/jam in the derailler and pulled it toward the wheel.

That's what I meant by 'partly break' a chain. A full brake would cause no harm.

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Old 09-25-07 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Ross
A very wise member of this very forum (or, perhaps it was another cycling forum...mea culpa) came up with what I think is the best koan regarding dork discs:

Until you can remove a dork disc without damaging it, you should be required to continue riding with it in place.
I learned a new word today.
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Old 09-27-07 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Avalanche325
These are also useful items:

Wheel reflectors
Fenders
Chain gaurds
Front and rear reflectors
4ft high neon safety flags
hub cleaner straps
helmet mirrors

They are also all dorky.
You forgot to mention a 2 pound kick stand
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Old 09-27-07 | 08:19 AM
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I recently explained to my friend that it's okay if he goes ahead and removes the reflectors from the wheels of his Cannondale. I also suggested the large bar-mounted bag needs to go if he truly wants to be aerodynamic, but to the contrary, he explained how he puts an extra pair of socks (and underwear?) in that bag because it gets too sweaty. I hesitantly inquired if he was using lycra cycling socks or conventional cotton gym socks, and I believe his response indicated the lattter....
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Old 09-27-07 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by dstrong
The inward/outward movement of the derailler is controlled by the derailler cable, not the chain. The chain breaking wouldn't cause the derailler to move in or out.
I think you'll find that there is a spring in the derailleur that places it under tension toward the smallest cogs. Thus, an increase in shifter cable tension will work against the spring and shift the derailleur inwards, whilst a decrease in tension will do the opposite.

This also explains why shimano STI shifters have the downshifts on the brake lever - to get more leverage against the derailleur spring tension.
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