How to avoid cross-chaining?
#1
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
How to avoid cross-chaining?
My bike has a compact crank (34/50). As the larger chainring is often too large for the speed at which I ride, I use the smaller one most of the time. However, since it is compact I find myself having to use the smallest cogs in order to maintain a reasonable cadence. I'd say my most common gear is 34 in front and third smallest cog in back, although i also frequently put it in the second smallest. Although i never use the smallest cog with the small chaingring, i'm worried about cross-chaining and it's possible effects on my drivetrain, the first of which I've noticed is a very faint squeaking noise every so often, though I'm not sure where it's coming from. Any suggestions on how to avoid crossing my chain (if it is actually a problem). I was thinking of possibly getting a larger inner chainring, does that make sense?
#2
If the larger inner ring gives you the low gearing you need, go for it. It might make chainring shifting smoother as well (smaller drop between rings).
But try using the trim on the front shifter first - that should minimize the chain rub when cross-chained.
But try using the trim on the front shifter first - that should minimize the chain rub when cross-chained.
#3
Banned.
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,765
Likes: 0
From: Hammerland
#4
You have just learned why I will not give up my 39 ring. With a 12-27 on the back of a 53-39, I rarely get out of the 39 ring, It takes me up hills, and as fast as 20 mph easily within my spin range. I really do not sweat crosschaining on a double. My chain has lasted 4000 miles!!
#5
Senior Member
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 3,659
Likes: 0
From: Northern Ontario
Bikes: Colnago Master XL, Bianchi Via Nirone 7, Marinoni Fango
Just shift more or learn to spin at a higher cadence if that's too hard. Honestly cross chaining isn't as efficient, but it's not that bad. I catch myself every so often doing it and I get over 7500 km out of my chains.
#7
You could put a 36T ring on instead of the 34T... although if you're riding the 34 all the time, then personally, I think you just need to build more leg strenth. Ride the 50 more.
There's always the option of a different cassette... you could put an 11-23 on there if you're in your 34 most of the time, and then you probably wouldn't cross chain as much.... assuming you've got a 12-25 or 12-27 on there now that is. If you have a 12-25 or 12-27, you need to ride the big ring more.
There's always the option of a different cassette... you could put an 11-23 on there if you're in your 34 most of the time, and then you probably wouldn't cross chain as much.... assuming you've got a 12-25 or 12-27 on there now that is. If you have a 12-25 or 12-27, you need to ride the big ring more.
Last edited by grahny; 09-14-07 at 09:38 PM.
#8
Senior Member
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,137
Likes: 1
From: SoCal Baby
Bikes: o5 Specilized roubaix Comp, 06 Tequilo
There is usually some overlap in the ratios available between the large and samll rings. Learn to shift both levers when you are running out of cassette. I shift up to the big ring and down three on the cassette in one shift. Works the same way shifting down. I run 52-39 with 12-27 in the San Gabriel and Sierras and havent had to got to "w" gear yet.
#9
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Learn to shift both levers when you are running out of cassette. I shift up to the big ring and down three on the cassette in one shift.
Anyway, in terms of a solution, I could ride more in the 50 and lower my cadence, or get a smaller cassette/a bigger chainring, correct?
#10
I used do the same thing, from 39 to 53 in front and down three on the cassette. It's annoying because my preferred range on the flats lies in the overlap between the two, so sometimes I just crosschain on the larger ring.
#11
Senior Member
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 4,850
Likes: 1
From: Blacksburg, VA
Bikes: Yeti ASRc, Focus Raven 29er, Flyxii FR316
I do this a lot and it can get annoying. I think I'm an obsessive shifter, I change gears like every 15 seconds, the route i ride (the Central Park drive) I guess could be considered "rolling", which probably gave me the habit.
Anyway, in terms of a solution, I could ride more in the 50 and lower my cadence, or get a smaller cassette/a bigger chainring, correct?
Anyway, in terms of a solution, I could ride more in the 50 and lower my cadence, or get a smaller cassette/a bigger chainring, correct?
I live in the midwest, so it's all big ring, and I'm still in the mid-90s.
#14
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
What is your cadence, that you are able to stand riding in the 34t chainring?
I know this is a pretty general question, but is the general consensus that when on a flat section of road one should be in the big chainring?
#15
The Op could really use an all rounder 42 chainring. Perhaps a triple chainring might have been a better choice for him and just not use the 53 big ring at all and limit use to just the 42 and 30 rings. Just a thought.....or get a true touring triple.
#16
Senior Member
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 4,850
Likes: 1
From: Blacksburg, VA
Bikes: Yeti ASRc, Focus Raven 29er, Flyxii FR316
Unless you have a tornado coming at you across the corn desert, a Nor'Easter bearing down on you, or some other miserable form of headwind...probably.
#17
Sua Ku
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 5,705
Likes: 2
From: Hot as hell, Singapore
Bikes: Trek 5200, BMC SLC01, BMC SSX, Specialized FSR, Holdsworth Criterium
#18
HTML Code:
50 34 27 13 8.9 24 14.7 10 21 16.8 11.4 19 18.5 12.6 17 20.7 14.1 16 22 15 15 23.5 15.9 14 25.1 17.1 13 27.1 18.4 12 29.3 19.9
#19
Peloton Shelter Dog
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 90,508
Likes: 32
From: Chester, NY
Bikes: 2017 Scott Foil, 2016 Scott Addict SL, 2018 Santa Cruz Blur CC MTB
But I ride so much that my chains and sprockets need replacement on a semi-regular basis ANYWAY. Particularly chains. The last time some guy next to me told me I was cross chaining turned to him and said 'Yeah, AND...???'
He did not have a response.
He did not have a response.
#20
#21
Senior Member


Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 6,944
Likes: 853
From: Wilmette, IL
I'm old school. I like half step gearing, what I call it anyway. 49-52 chainrings and 14-24 6speed in the rear. This way you use the frt. and rear sprockets in an alternating fashion to move through your gears. Low is around 50 in. and top is 100+ in. But can anybody really turn anything bigger than an 88 for very long anyway. Cant figure why people have 12 tooth sprockets!
#22
cross chaining...imo...doesnt matter as long as you arent making any noise.
I think people take this way too seriously. Just ride and cross chain, it makes very little difference to longevity of chain and cogs
I think people take this way too seriously. Just ride and cross chain, it makes very little difference to longevity of chain and cogs
#23
reluctant roadie
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 94
Likes: 0
Could I run a 50 tooth chainring on my 9 speed Ultegra crank? This would make my large ring more useful.
#24
Senior Member


Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 30,225
Likes: 649
From: St Peters, Missouri
Bikes: Catrike 559 I own some others but they don't get ridden very much.
The compact crankset curse.
To me the real test for a compact crankset has to do with your favorite flat road gear. You'd like for it to fall right in the middle of the cassette, probably on the big ring. That'll give you two or three "trim" gears in either direction without cross chaining. The issue isn't just the cross chaining itself, it's finding the appropriate rear cog after making the big jump in front chainrings. That's a momentum loser.
It sounds to me like you might benefit from a cassette with larger cogs. That would probably let you ride the flats in the big ring and the middle cogs and avoid cross chaining. Save that 34 for the hills.
It sounds to me like you might benefit from a cassette with larger cogs. That would probably let you ride the flats in the big ring and the middle cogs and avoid cross chaining. Save that 34 for the hills.




