Well now it is official -- Landis doped. Anyone surprised?

After reading the 15 other threads on this... no, not really.

ehh it's bound to happen one of these days...you know the stereotype pro cycling=doping

Somehow this ruling changes your opinion on the matter?

I like how people feel they have to start their own threads, like the 827 other threads were not enough.

but they're all special!

And here I thought this thread was about how Floyd was cheated out of his Tour de France title.

he was.

What exactly did he use?

bad judgment.

More like what are the other people using that aren't getting them banned.

"Beyond a reasonable doubt" does not enter into this...

Talent?

Good one. But, I don't think he meant exactly.

Of course, it's easy to miss the portion of the ruling that said, and I paraphrase, that if the lab contiues to use poorly trained personnel and continues failing to follow strict and consistent procedures it may just be that innocent cyclists will be convicted of cheating.... hmmmmmm, sounds like Floyd was set up as an example. drug testing procedures, both in the lab and on the circuit, as well as the way they're handled by the governing bodies is and will remain a joke and catastrophe for cyclists. this is just a case of theofficials covering their asses.

they are covering their asses, but it remains that there was more than enough evidence to convict landis despite the errors in the lab. at least that's why there was arbitration.