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Old 10-25-07, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by rizz

As for group purchases, how about some high quality Bikes Direct jerseys and bibs with BD pricing? I could always use new clothes and wouldn't mind advertising their company on my training gear. Sounds liek a win-win proposition to me.
I have been thinking about this
Must be super top level quality

What would be a good price if you assume same quality as $80 to $100 standard retail peices???
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Originally Posted by rizz
I never visit those forums and would much rather see it here where the traffic is greatest. As for limiting the options, that's the wrong way to go about it. The more that are offered as a special, the more choices it gives people instead of boxing them into a simple yes or no decision.
Isn't that market research...
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#4 w/ campy
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Originally Posted by bikesdirect_com
I understand lots of people want wheels

We are selling tons of wheels on bikeisland; I mean tons

https://www.bikeisland.com/cgi-bin/BK...nd%20Wheelsets

we even have bike shops that buy wheels from bikeisland all the time

I think the new VueltaXRP road team SL at 1450 grams are so is a super nice wheelset.
I know the building shop on these [who has built for about every brand name]
for light racxe wheels they are great

is this thype of wheel members would like cheap? or something else?

I think the people I quoted above are interested in carbon, tubular race wheels. Gigantex rims. Similar to the links I posted before in this thread:

https://www.chucksbikes.com/store/big_wh035.htm @ $650

or

https://www.probikekit.com/display.php?code=w0001 @ $770.

The closest thing you have to them are 2kg, and clinchers. I'd plunk down some good cash if you offered 1400g carbon tubulars. More than your Vuelta carbon clinchers go for. With the volume you guys sell at, you could get far cheaper prices from the manufacturers than the other companies selling them...
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Originally Posted by Hammertoe
Isn't that market research...
YES
exactly why I am here
never stop learning; learning is fun
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Originally Posted by Second Mouse
#3 please. This would be like your Mercier Serpens but lugged, right? Frameset preferred, as large as possible, 64cm if available.
Double that, def. a lugged 64 with the same geo at the current Serpens. I'd go complete though.

Also 4.
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Originally Posted by Duke of Kent
I think the people I quoted above are interested in carbon, tubular race wheels. Gigantex rims. Similar to the links I posted before in this thread:

https://www.chucksbikes.com/store/big_wh035.htm @ $650

or

https://www.probikekit.com/display.php?code=w0001 @ $770.

The closest thing you have to them are 2kg, and clinchers. I'd plunk down some good cash if you offered 1400g carbon tubulars. More than your Vuelta carbon clinchers go for. With the volume you guys sell at, you could get far cheaper prices from the manufacturers than the other companies selling them...
that is interesting
you are right - we could get low prices
but sew-ups are scary [marketing wise - personnaly I love them; but the market is so small]

I can check and see if I can have some built that run 1400 grams with Gigantex rims
could just use the hubs and spokes from Vuelta Team SL -- might get to 1400 grams easy.

I'll look at it

thanks

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Originally Posted by bikesdirect_com
that is interesting
you are right - we could get low prices
but sew-ups are scary [marketing wise - personnaly I love them; but the market is so small]

I can check and see if I can have some built that run 1400 grams with Gigantex rims
could just use the hubs and spokes from Vuelta Team SL -- might get to 1400 grams easy.

I'll look at it

thanks

mike
To be honest, I think you'd sell more 1400g 50mm tubular wheels than you would 2000g 50mm clincher wheels. Start a thread with a survey in it and I think you'll see people confirm that.
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Originally Posted by grahny
#4 w/ campy



here is my concern
as you see the dollar is at an all time low against the euro
and campy must be purchased in euros
by the time I get more campy in
dollar may be back to 1.20 - then we are over market by 12%

I am trying to get ways to reduce campy priices
but I can not fight this curreny tend

Here is a funny thing; German car makers just suck up these Euro/USD changes to stay competitive; so does Shimano by and large -- but not Campy - buy in Euros or forget it

so the price quotes are freaking me out on campy

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I am down for a Ti road frame/cf fork that is from Taiwan (but not from China).

Ti is definitely preferable to high-level steel or cf, for the rust and bash/abuse factor.

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Originally Posted by bikesdirect_com
I have been thinking about this
Must be super top level quality

What would be a good price if you assume same quality as $80 to $100 standard retail peices???

That's hard. I'm certainly willing to pay more for good design; I'd suggest you have somebody other than yer website guy do the graphics.

I think you'll have to beat hammer's price point.
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Originally Posted by Duke of Kent
I think the people I quoted above are interested in carbon, tubular race wheels. Gigantex rims. Similar to the links I posted before in this thread:

https://www.chucksbikes.com/store/big_wh035.htm @ $650

or

https://www.probikekit.com/display.php?code=w0001 @ $770.

The closest thing you have to them are 2kg, and clinchers. I'd plunk down some good cash if you offered 1400g carbon tubulars. More than your Vuelta carbon clinchers go for. With the volume you guys sell at, you could get far cheaper prices from the manufacturers than the other companies selling them...
Yes, yes and yes.

It'd be nice if it had a powertap rear hub too...
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Tubular wheels would be perfect. Do that and I know of about 5 guys that would be in for a good price. Its much more difficult to find good quality tubs that are a reasonable price, then finding a well specd bike.
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Originally Posted by gr@sshopper
That's hard. I'm certainly willing to pay more for good design; I'd suggest you have somebody other than yer website guy do the graphics.

I think you'll have to beat hammer's price point.
Hammer's price for better product would be great.
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Originally Posted by Duke of Kent
To be honest, I think you'd sell more 1400g 50mm tubular wheels than you would 2000g 50mm clincher wheels. Start a thread with a survey in it and I think you'll see people confirm that.
thanks
I just ask for quote with 50mm Gigantex rim
should know in a few days

I am thinking $450 would be an attractive price if under 1500 grams
with good precision bearing hubs and handbuild

CF keeps going up in price; so it is hard to get a fix on a price and hold it
but I think we can work something out
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WOW for 450 I am so in. Make it happen.
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Originally Posted by bikesdirect_com
thanks
I just ask for quote with 50mm Gigantex rim
should know in a few days

I am thinking $450 would be an attractive price if under 1500 grams
with good precision bearing hubs and handbuild

CF keeps going up in price; so it is hard to get a fix on a price and hold it
but I think we can work something out
Interesting...
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count me in on the tubulars
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Originally Posted by kchrist
WOW for 450 I am so in. Make it happen.
My credit card agrees.
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Originally Posted by bikesdirect_com
thanks
I just ask for quote with 50mm Gigantex rim
should know in a few days

I am thinking $450 would be an attractive price if under 1500 grams
with good precision bearing hubs and handbuild

CF keeps going up in price; so it is hard to get a fix on a price and hold it
but I think we can work something out
That would be excellent. You know that would have a ripple effect on the whole tubular wheel market right?

Edit: if the decals were removeable, even better.
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Sounds like we have around 10 or so interested parties...at least.

You can thank me later, Mike.
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Any chance we could get some geometry for any of these options. That will have a big impact on my vote. I'm not looking for a cruiser or a cross bike. A Ti frame is sounding better and better to me all the time. How far away are you thinking this group buy will be? Are we talking next week here or next month?

Actually, $450 for a sub 1500 carbon aero wheelset is awesome. I'd have to get in on that.
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it would be great if the tubular wheelset had the option of no stickers
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guys stickers arent usually clearcoated on rims.
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Originally Posted by kchrist
WOW for 450 I am so in. Make it happen.
me too!
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