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Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway

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Old 11-26-07, 08:01 AM
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Don't try this with fenders!

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Originally Posted by Phantoj
"Tire wiping is akin to throwing salt over ones shoulder except that it has more ill effects. Tire wipers hands are dirty and if they ride hard they wipe this grime onto their faces. Today's short bicycle frames make wiping rear tires dangerous because the fingers can get jammed between seat tube and tire that nearly touch." -- Jobst Brandt (https://yarchive.net/bike/glass_puncture.html)
If you don't know what you're doing, there are tons of places you can get your fingers stuck in, on a moving bicycle.
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Originally Posted by Phantoj
"Tire wiping is akin to throwing salt over ones shoulder except that it has more ill effects. Tire wipers hands are dirty and if they ride hard they wipe this grime onto their faces. Today's short bicycle frames make wiping rear tires dangerous because the fingers can get jammed between seat tube and tire that nearly touch." -- Jobst Brandt (https://yarchive.net/bike/glass_puncture.html)
I ride barehanded in all but the winter. Having glass in my tire doesn't sound as bad as having glass in my hand.

I also ride in Amish country and near horse farms. Any wipe of my tires during a ride, glove or no, would be like wiping a horse's ass at 200rpm. Skid marks indeed.
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Originally Posted by Phantoj
"Tire wiping is akin to throwing salt over ones shoulder except that it has more ill effects. Tire wipers hands are dirty and if they ride hard they wipe this grime onto their faces. Today's short bicycle frames make wiping rear tires dangerous because the fingers can get jammed between seat tube and tire that nearly touch." -- Jobst Brandt (https://yarchive.net/bike/glass_puncture.html)
HAH! Someone quoting JB again.....

JB apparently spent more time theorizing about bikes than riding them.

Maybe if he spent his hard-earned Ducats on expensive tubies, he'd feel differently. I went nine years without a flat. I ride lots, but carefully. I wipe my tires with a gloved hand whenever I feel as though I've ridden through anything that could give me a flat. I do not consider this to be superstitious or grounded in fantasy. It works!

I suppose he'll be telling me my perfectly straight and true 10 year old handbuilt tied and soldered wheels are useless as well! (Yes, I know.....)

Whatever, Jobst.
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Agreed. I have been wiping my tires after running over debris for over 30 yrs. I get very few flat on my sew-ups.
Recently, I retrained myself to wipe the rear tire first as it has more weight over it.
If anything fails to come off after wiping with a gloved hand I stop for a visual inspection. I have pulled out embedded glass and thorns which if riddened on further would have resulted in a flat.
I also fill in small cuts and nicks in the thread once or twice per season with a tube of liquid rubber which smellls much like model airplane cement. Maybe I have OCD?
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Originally Posted by Fox Farm
You don't wedge your hand down in there...
Fo' sho'!

Step one - place the top (knuckle side) of your thumb against the front (leading edge) of your seat stay.

Step two - place the top (knuckle side) of your fingertips against the back (trailing edge) of your seattube.

Step three - SLOWLY slide your hand down (towards the ground) while keeping pressure on both the front of your seat stay & the back of your seattube -- your thumb and fingers will be expanding further apart as you do so, such that your now-exposed but safely braced palm is the only thing that makes contact with the spinning tire.

Extra points if you can do this while pedalling at a high cadence.
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Old 11-26-07, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by DocRay
Why would you put your hand there?

A little common sense would say do this in front of the front wheel brakes or behind the rear wheel brakes. It's not too hard to consider the tire rotation.
I was wondering if other folks do this. I've been doing it for years and it certainly cuts down on flats from glass.
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Old 11-26-07, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Phantoj
"Tire wiping is akin to throwing salt over ones shoulder except that it has more ill effects. Tire wipers hands are dirty and if they ride hard they wipe this grime onto their faces. Today's short bicycle frames make wiping rear tires dangerous because the fingers can get jammed between seat tube and tire that nearly touch." -- Jobst Brandt (https://yarchive.net/bike/glass_puncture.html)
Those who can't say it can't be done, those of us who can, do and have fewer flats because of it.
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Originally Posted by One Way Rider
JB apparently spent more time theorizing about bikes than riding them.
That would be a lot of theorizing, but I'll bet that most of us think about cycling more than we actually ride. Here's Jobst between theory sessions:


I've alternately brushed my tires, and not brushed them. The biggest determining factor in puncture resistance for me has been tire wear, and I run mine pretty thin. Still, I pretty much always brush the front if I go through debris. I don't bother with the rear any more.
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Old 11-26-07, 01:30 PM
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I've done it after rolling through glass (that I couldn't avoid). I wouldn't do it every 5 min. though....
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