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Old 11-23-07, 07:03 PM
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I bought my first road bike a few weeks ago, a trek pilot 1.2. The saddle is pretty uncomfortable on it, and I am a pretty new rider and I don't know that much about saddles. What would you guys suggest for a resonable price? something by selle italia?
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It's best to find the saddle that is most comfortable for you. See if a LBS is willing to let you try out a few before deciding on the one you like.

Personally, I like some of the Terry "performance" saddles. They strike a good balance between comfort and low weight.
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Brooks B-17.
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Brooks B-17.
Saddle for fat arses

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Originally Posted by CharlieWoo
Saddle for fat arses

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And your point is?
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Toupe Gel for me...and I love it!
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Originally Posted by CharlieWoo
Saddle for fat arses
Excuse me, but the choice of a Brooks B17 has nothing to do with the width of a rider's posterior. I own several classic bicycles fitted with Brooks saddles and I'm descended from a long line of skinny Irishwomen. Leather saddles such as the Brooks B17 are chosen because of their quality, durability and excellent comfort as well as sheer good value for money.
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Originally Posted by CharlieWoo
Saddle for fat arses
do you think before you post??...or are you just feeling like an exceptional @$$ tonight?
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Originally Posted by johnjamieson
I bought my first road bike a few weeks ago, a trek pilot 1.2. The saddle is pretty uncomfortable on it, and I am a pretty new rider and I don't know that much about saddles. What would you guys suggest for a resonable price? something by selle italia?
From someone who did this last year, a gel seat pad until you get used to the one you've got. Then take it off and throw it away
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Originally Posted by Sianelle
Excuse me, but the choice of a Brooks B17 has nothing to do with the width of a rider's posterior. I own several classic bicycles fitted with Brooks saddles and I'm descended from a long line of skinny Irishwomen. Leather saddles such as the Brooks B17 are chosen because of their quality, durability and excellent comfort as well as sheer good value for money.
Sorry, let me rephrase: saddle for Freds.
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Originally Posted by Pharmr
do you think before you post??
No; I drink before I post.
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I bought my wife a trek pilot 1.2 last year and replaced the the standard saddle with a brooks b17. She loves it. It made the difference between her riding and not riding. She rode for 66miles this summer with me on one ride and the only complaint she had was a sore neck and shoulder. She said she didn't even notice the saddle. Her longest ride before that was 30miles.

I have brooks pros on my cyclocross and my mondonico steelie and my 70's bottechia. It is the only saddle I would consider. Properly installed and broken in, they are the most comfortable saddles you can get.
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Originally Posted by -VELOCITY-
And your point is?


Charlie Woo doesn't have a point........(understand this)

To him a Brooks saddle is ugly, heavy, and lame, and the literally thousands of happy users worldwide makes no difference. He will advocate his thoughts to the contrary simply because he has not seen the light. He is driven by the latest, high-tec, featherweight component regardless whether it is proven or not.

No, Mr Charlie Woo is a contemporary man. A man of today, without the mentality of a purist, who is less likely to run a Brooks saddle as he would a lugged steel frame. He is not a child of function. He is a child of fashion, and cannot conseive of ever putting such an ugly monstrocity such as a Brooks on his beloved bike.




......but for the rest of us,.....the "enlightened ones",.....we have this:


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thanks for the help guys, a brooks it is
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Originally Posted by Wino Ryder
Charlie Woo doesn't have a point........(understand this)

To him a Brooks saddle is ugly, heavy, and lame, and the literally thousands of happy users worldwide makes no difference. He will advocate his thoughts to the contrary simply because he has not seen the light. He is driven by the latest, high-tec, featherweight component regardless whether it is proven or not.

No, Mr Charlie Woo is a contemporary man. A man of today, without the mentality of a purist, who is less likely to run a Brooks saddle as he would a lugged steel frame. He is not a child of function. He is a child of fashion, and cannot conseive of ever putting such an ugly monstrocity such as a Brooks on his beloved bike.




......but for the rest of us,.....the "enlightened ones",.....we have this:


Well said that man. (clap clap clap clap.......)
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Best upgrade I ever did. Lucked out big time, because I just insisted I wanted a saddle with a space in it so that I didn't go impotent. (Went with a specialized Avatar)
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Originally Posted by CharlieWoo
Sorry, let me rephrase: saddle for Freds.
Well I love my Brooks.

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do yourself a favor and find a shop with Selle SMP saddles that will let you try one out. If you can afford one, i highly recommend it.
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Originally Posted by Wino Ryder
Charlie Woo doesn't have a point........(understand this)

To him a Brooks saddle is ugly, heavy, and lame, and the literally thousands of happy users worldwide makes no difference. He will advocate his thoughts to the contrary simply because he has not seen the light. He is driven by the latest, high-tec, featherweight component regardless whether it is proven or not.

No, Mr Charlie Woo is a contemporary man. A man of today, without the mentality of a purist, who is less likely to run a Brooks saddle as he would a lugged steel frame. He is not a child of function. He is a child of fashion, and cannot conseive of ever putting such an ugly monstrocity such as a Brooks on his beloved bike.
Um, correct.

But, come on, have you actually ever seen a Tarmac Pro with a Brooks? And, seriously, the Toupe is plenty comfy for the ride lengths I do (up to 6 hours) and weighs in at a hefty 150 grams.
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[QUOTE]
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Um, correct.

But, come on, have you actually ever seen a Tarmac Pro with a Brooks?


HUH??......Correct??........Of course I'm correct. Don't be rediculous!!


...just kidding. Granted, certain Brooks would look rather odd on some bikes, thats why they make aggressive racing type saddles like the Brooks 'Pro', the 'Swift', and the 'Swallow, which looks good on any bike. Personally, I'd kill for a 'Swift', so if you got one, stay away from me!

I have the Brooks 'Professional', and eventhough its made out of 2,000,000 year old 'Triceratops skin, it has effectively, and decisively, ended my saddle sore problems on long rides. But alas, my misguided friend, all is not lost. You have just simply lost your way!...... A Brooks will prevail on you. In time, you will be consumed by it, overwhelmed by it, and in the end,...when you are at your most desperate, frightened beyond reason from the suffering pain of plastic based saddles, you will be entered into the realm of the 'enlightened'.......You will be a believer!!
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It's always been my understanding it takes approx 300 to 500 miles to break in a saddle. So any saddle is going to be some what uncomfortable for a while.
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No break in is needed on plastic saddles. Unless you mean positioning.

The b17 takes about 200 miles. The brooks pro is longer because it is made of thicker leather. There are ways to speed this up, but brooks doesn't recommend it. If properly set up a brooks is not bad right out of the box, so the whole "break in" saga is over blown; as is the "brooks can't get wet" issue.
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I replaced my selle italia slr xp with a fizik aliante and it's made a world of difference. Heavier I know but worth it to me.
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I'd recommend trying the Fizik Aliante Gamma. Similar design concept to the Brooks B17, but with modern, synthetic materials and more bling. Very comfortable saddle, even for those with wider sit bones.
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I'd recommend trying the Fizik Aliante Gamma. Similar design concept to the Brooks B17, but with modern, synthetic materials and more bling. Very comfortable saddle, even for those with wider sit bones.
I actually got one of those as an OEM take-off from my LBS's stash of extra saddles. It had been on a bike in the shop but was swapped out as soon as the bike was sold. It's now on my city bike, and feels pretty good when I'm on its sweet spot. I'm sure that it's not the same as the regular Aliante with the carbon shell, but the suspension-like frame and cutout under the center of the padding works pretty well.

The fact that it has a sweet spot is also a drawback, though; it's not nearly comfortable outside of that spot. I've got an Arione on another bike, and while no position on it is as good as the Aliante's sweet spot, it also is about equally as comfortable everywhere else. Say that the Aliante is an 8 at its best, but a 5 everywhere else, and the Arione is a 7 in general.
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