cat 1 racers get smoked
12-09-07, 06:56 PM
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12-09-07, 07:05 PM
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Rebikers need to justify themselves with saying "but I'm faster". The entire world - including me - laughs at them regardless of if they are passing me or not (never happened).
It's just like the guy driving a 1983 Camaro that has 400 HP. Yeah, it may be fast, but nobody is even the slightest bit impressed.
It's just like the guy driving a 1983 Camaro that has 400 HP. Yeah, it may be fast, but nobody is even the slightest bit impressed.
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12-09-07, 07:21 PM
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The Freddiest thing on the planet is to turn each and every encounter with another rider into a "race". I have never seen one, but I hear the actual recumbent races are "real crash-fests", according to my bent rider friend.
12-09-07, 07:24 PM
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This thread is like a Fred Suicide Bomber attack.
12-09-07, 07:25 PM
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ok, so say you are given a hundred mile semi flat to mildy hilly course............. can you pull off a solo 4 hour century? naw didn't so
Your idea of thinking that all recumbents are slow is what keeps the faster recumbent riders on lowracers busy dispelling the recumbent myth that they are slow and can't climb. Whenever road bikers ask me how the lowracer climbs compared to their road bike, I always say, what difference does it make If I'm already 6 miles ahead of you? I say 2 out of 3 aint bad...... road bikes may tend to climb a little faster, but how are you on the flats and downhills? Lowracers don't need pacelines to go fast either.
Your idea of thinking that all recumbents are slow is what keeps the faster recumbent riders on lowracers busy dispelling the recumbent myth that they are slow and can't climb. Whenever road bikers ask me how the lowracer climbs compared to their road bike, I always say, what difference does it make If I'm already 6 miles ahead of you? I say 2 out of 3 aint bad...... road bikes may tend to climb a little faster, but how are you on the flats and downhills? Lowracers don't need pacelines to go fast either.
12-09-07, 07:34 PM
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12-09-07, 08:17 PM
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Why is it that many 'bent riders stress their superiority/speed over traditional bikes? It's the worst sort of elitism. Yeah, recumbents are faster on the flats. But there are trade offs... i.e. price, inability to fit into traditional paceline, poor climbing, bike weight (sometimes), reduced safety due to low profile, strange handling.... etc.
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12-09-07, 09:55 PM
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Nice!
12-09-07, 10:00 PM
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Damn, those pics make me miss racing... even though I was just a lowly Cat 4 / Collegiate C racer.
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12-09-07, 10:44 PM
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ok, so say you are given a hundred mile semi flat to mildy hilly course............. can you pull off a solo 4 hour century? naw didn't so
Your idea of thinking that all recumbents are slow is what keeps the faster recumbent riders on lowracers busy dispelling the recumbent myth that they are slow and can't climb. Whenever road bikers ask me how the lowracer climbs compared to their road bike, I always say, what difference does it make If I'm already 6 miles ahead of you? I say 2 out of 3 aint bad...... road bikes may tend to climb a little faster, but how are you on the flats and downhills? Lowracers don't need pacelines to go fast either.
Your idea of thinking that all recumbents are slow is what keeps the faster recumbent riders on lowracers busy dispelling the recumbent myth that they are slow and can't climb. Whenever road bikers ask me how the lowracer climbs compared to their road bike, I always say, what difference does it make If I'm already 6 miles ahead of you? I say 2 out of 3 aint bad...... road bikes may tend to climb a little faster, but how are you on the flats and downhills? Lowracers don't need pacelines to go fast either.
insecure much...how many my bike is faster than your bike post are you gonna write?
yeah your faster..we get it already...no go ride and stop hating on every roadie that comes even remotely close to others defense.
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12-10-07, 06:29 AM
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ok, so say you are given a hundred mile semi flat to mildy hilly course............. can you pull off a solo 4 hour century? naw didn't so
Your idea of thinking that all recumbents are slow is what keeps the faster recumbent riders on lowracers busy dispelling the recumbent myth that they are slow and can't climb. Whenever road bikers ask me how the lowracer climbs compared to their road bike, I always say, what difference does it make If I'm already 6 miles ahead of you? I say 2 out of 3 aint bad...... road bikes may tend to climb a little faster, but how are you on the flats and downhills? Lowracers don't need pacelines to go fast either.
Your idea of thinking that all recumbents are slow is what keeps the faster recumbent riders on lowracers busy dispelling the recumbent myth that they are slow and can't climb. Whenever road bikers ask me how the lowracer climbs compared to their road bike, I always say, what difference does it make If I'm already 6 miles ahead of you? I say 2 out of 3 aint bad...... road bikes may tend to climb a little faster, but how are you on the flats and downhills? Lowracers don't need pacelines to go fast either.
12-10-07, 11:34 AM
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You left out the thinking part. Kinda like when you did this post.
Probably a good thing for any number of reasons.
12-10-07, 12:43 PM
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As a former road racer turn recumbent rider.. I can't determine a cat1 rider from pictures... only if they flash their racing license around.
I don't ride a road bike to be comfortable, but to hurt people on the rides..
I don't ride a recumbent to go fast nor to race, but to be comfortable and relax..
If a rider has the riding skill and physical ability, riding a road bike or a recumbent bike matter little, if they want to "smoke" other riders they will do it.
I don't ride a road bike to be comfortable, but to hurt people on the rides..
I don't ride a recumbent to go fast nor to race, but to be comfortable and relax..
If a rider has the riding skill and physical ability, riding a road bike or a recumbent bike matter little, if they want to "smoke" other riders they will do it.
12-10-07, 01:02 PM
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I would rather ride upright and give it a sub 5 hour effort solo than ride a bent.
The whole "look at me...I'm on a bent and I'm fast" really doesn't appeal to me.
Maybe if I had a beard and was 30-50lbs heavier.
The whole "look at me...I'm on a bent and I'm fast" really doesn't appeal to me.
Maybe if I had a beard and was 30-50lbs heavier.
ok, so say you are given a hundred mile semi flat to mildy hilly course............. can you pull off a solo 4 hour century? naw didn't so
Your idea of thinking that all recumbents are slow is what keeps the faster recumbent riders on lowracers busy dispelling the recumbent myth that they are slow and can't climb. Whenever road bikers ask me how the lowracer climbs compared to their road bike, I always say, what difference does it make If I'm already 6 miles ahead of you? I say 2 out of 3 aint bad...... road bikes may tend to climb a little faster, but how are you on the flats and downhills? Lowracers don't need pacelines to go fast either.
Your idea of thinking that all recumbents are slow is what keeps the faster recumbent riders on lowracers busy dispelling the recumbent myth that they are slow and can't climb. Whenever road bikers ask me how the lowracer climbs compared to their road bike, I always say, what difference does it make If I'm already 6 miles ahead of you? I say 2 out of 3 aint bad...... road bikes may tend to climb a little faster, but how are you on the flats and downhills? Lowracers don't need pacelines to go fast either.
12-10-07, 02:03 PM
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Maybe it's my interest in all things bike related, but I think that other than the safety issues assotiated with not being seen on the road (flag or not) I would really enjoy taking a high quality 'bent on any of the routes that I'm used to riding on my road bike. Granted there are probably only a few 'bent designs that I'd be comfortable riding in public simply based on looks. If I was going to preach about how 'bent riders are all freds I'd definitely want to give it a try so my criticisms were based on something other than a stereotype alone.
I own a few bikes, including a lugged steel bike that I commute on, my newer alu/carbon ultegra trek and an 80's funny bike. To me a bike is a bike, and the fact that I can get tons of exercise without feeling like I'm having to put comfort and enjoyment asside is why I love bikes so much. It almost feels like 'bent haters around here (maybe this is only percieved) are closed minded enough that if they were ever to develop a health condition that restricted their bike riding to 'bents, they'd prefer to sit on a couch and get fat before becoming what they have personally dubbed fredtastic.
That being said...I think defending 'bents on their aerodynamic advantage is equally as juvenile. How about, "It's the only kind of exercise that I can motivate myself to do," or " I never could find a comfortable saddle on a road bike." Something personal, rather than defaulting to "oh yeah, well it's faster..."
-Jeremy
I own a few bikes, including a lugged steel bike that I commute on, my newer alu/carbon ultegra trek and an 80's funny bike. To me a bike is a bike, and the fact that I can get tons of exercise without feeling like I'm having to put comfort and enjoyment asside is why I love bikes so much. It almost feels like 'bent haters around here (maybe this is only percieved) are closed minded enough that if they were ever to develop a health condition that restricted their bike riding to 'bents, they'd prefer to sit on a couch and get fat before becoming what they have personally dubbed fredtastic.
That being said...I think defending 'bents on their aerodynamic advantage is equally as juvenile. How about, "It's the only kind of exercise that I can motivate myself to do," or " I never could find a comfortable saddle on a road bike." Something personal, rather than defaulting to "oh yeah, well it's faster..."
-Jeremy
12-10-07, 02:11 PM
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I never thought I would enjoy riding recumbent bicycles as much as I did, I gave it a solid try and I found that for recreational riding, long distance riding and commuting with some luggage, recumbent are simply more comfortable and pleasant to ride. With enough practice, recumbents bikes are just as maneuverable and visible in traffic as any other bicycle.
12-10-07, 02:26 PM
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"With enough practice, recumbents bikes are just as maneuverable and visible in traffic as any other bicycle. "
If you really believe that anything that low is anywhere near as visible as a bicycle in traffic, I have a bridge you might be interested in buying. Ever bunny hop a rim destroying pot hole at speed on a bent?
If you really believe that anything that low is anywhere near as visible as a bicycle in traffic, I have a bridge you might be interested in buying. Ever bunny hop a rim destroying pot hole at speed on a bent?
12-10-07, 02:36 PM
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I'm not uncomfortable on long distance rides. I've done full loaded touring. While I do have two "go fast bike", I also have one 80s touring bike and one SS touring bike that is a commuter bike (with comfy 37mm tires). Nothing uncomfortable about any of my road bikes....All of them are steel or are part steel and ride nice. I've got the measurements I like on my bikes and all of the bikes I have basically share crank length, saddle height, saddle type, TT length, stem length, bar width...well..you get the picture.
See that 30-50lbs heavier comment and beard......
Personally, I've never been passed by a bent or if I have...I soon caught up to it.
Glad you enjoy it but I would quit riding and find something else to do if I had to ride one. I've ridden a few just to check them out and well....they didn't thrill me any and the gain in speed really didn't feel honest to me. Great in the flats but climb like crap. I like riding in groups and share the load so to speak when we have group rides.
See that 30-50lbs heavier comment and beard......
Personally, I've never been passed by a bent or if I have...I soon caught up to it.
Glad you enjoy it but I would quit riding and find something else to do if I had to ride one. I've ridden a few just to check them out and well....they didn't thrill me any and the gain in speed really didn't feel honest to me. Great in the flats but climb like crap. I like riding in groups and share the load so to speak when we have group rides.
I guess similar reasons for people who drive gas guzzlers that ride (uncomfortably) like pickup trucks, .
I never thought I would enjoy riding recumbent bicycles as much as I did, I gave it a solid try and I found that for recreational riding, long distance riding and commuting with some luggage, recumbent are simply more comfortable and pleasant to ride. With enough practice, recumbents bikes are just as maneuverable and visible in traffic as any other bicycle.
I never thought I would enjoy riding recumbent bicycles as much as I did, I gave it a solid try and I found that for recreational riding, long distance riding and commuting with some luggage, recumbent are simply more comfortable and pleasant to ride. With enough practice, recumbents bikes are just as maneuverable and visible in traffic as any other bicycle.