Shimano discontinuing Dura Ace
02-04-08, 06:55 AM
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I'm sure I'm one of his best customers, but I doubt I'm in the top 20.
You have no idea. This is NY, as in the immediate NY City vicinity. It's above your pay grade. It's above my pay grade. The townhouses adjacent to the complex Piermont Bicycle Connection is in generally sell in the $1 million + range. Gorgeous Hudson town. I was married in an amazing Hudson Riverfront restaurant about 100 meters from this bike shop, about a year before they had even opened (married in '92, Piermont opened in '93, I've been a customer there ever since).
You have no idea. This is NY, as in the immediate NY City vicinity. It's above your pay grade. It's above my pay grade. The townhouses adjacent to the complex Piermont Bicycle Connection is in generally sell in the $1 million + range. Gorgeous Hudson town. I was married in an amazing Hudson Riverfront restaurant about 100 meters from this bike shop, about a year before they had even opened (married in '92, Piermont opened in '93, I've been a customer there ever since).
02-04-08, 08:48 AM
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Dude, they're 10 miles from Manhattan, they're jammed up with affluent NY City bike weenies all the time, and they're in one of the highest income and bicycle crazed zones in the USA. If they're not in the top 5% of bike shops nationally I'd be shocked. The owner of the shop drives an $80K 2007 Mercedes S Class sedan, not a Honda Element with dents in the door.
All circumstantial evidence of course, but let's just say they sell tons of high end bike crap.
All circumstantial evidence of course, but let's just say they sell tons of high end bike crap.
fwiw, they're more like 15 miles from Manhattan. And while they certainly sell an awful lot of nice bikes, I would hazard a guess that Signature Cycles or Conrad's (both in Manhattan) sell more bikes in the five digit price range in a week than Piermont Bicycle Connection does in a month.
Nontheless, I love dealing with Glen @ Piermont. And I'll bet they have more profitible "walk in" traffic for accessories & apparell than any of the Manhattan shops.
02-04-08, 08:53 AM
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Dollar for Dollar Ultegra is the best deal on cassettes.......unless your just a parts junkie......Oh....never mind
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02-04-08, 08:57 AM
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02-04-08, 09:47 AM
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02-04-08, 09:51 AM
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fwiw, they're more like 15 miles from Manhattan. And while they certainly sell an awful lot of nice bikes, I would hazard a guess that Signature Cycles or Conrad's (both in Manhattan) sell more bikes in the five digit price range in a week than Piermont Bicycle Connection does in a month.
Nontheless, I love dealing with Glen @ Piermont. And I'll bet they have more profitible "walk in" traffic for accessories & apparell than any of the Manhattan shops.
Nontheless, I love dealing with Glen @ Piermont. And I'll bet they have more profitible "walk in" traffic for accessories & apparell than any of the Manhattan shops.
02-04-08, 09:53 AM
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By the way, in Orange County where I live, 10 miles is 15 miles, hence my arithmetic. It's also mainly uphill and always into a 20mph westerly head wind. God help me, it's still snowing. Hard.
02-04-08, 10:06 AM
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maybe you are still joking but campy UT cranksets are about the best thing out. I ride shimano dura ace and campy bikes and I have to tell you straight up the UT cranks with their bearing system is far better than my shimano bike and that's with running ceramic BB bearings in the shimano offering.
The q factor didn't change either for campy's external setup. While the shimano bike is buttery smooth. I really do like the q factor of the campy bike better.
With all that said, last year I rode the shimano bike 4X as much but every time I got on the campy bike I went....damn this front crank is SMOOTH.
When I built up my X bike, I chose campy just because I liked the crank so much. My new PF group buy bike is going to be Centaur because:
I already had it
It is lighter than Ultegra SL
Lighter than Rival
Now if you are talking current Campy then maybe you are right but the campy that made the UT cranks, 1st to 10 speed and other things....well...that's pretty dang good.
The q factor didn't change either for campy's external setup. While the shimano bike is buttery smooth. I really do like the q factor of the campy bike better.
With all that said, last year I rode the shimano bike 4X as much but every time I got on the campy bike I went....damn this front crank is SMOOTH.
When I built up my X bike, I chose campy just because I liked the crank so much. My new PF group buy bike is going to be Centaur because:
I already had it
It is lighter than Ultegra SL
Lighter than Rival
Now if you are talking current Campy then maybe you are right but the campy that made the UT cranks, 1st to 10 speed and other things....well...that's pretty dang good.
02-04-08, 10:08 AM
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pro bike kit has Dura Ace for $121 and record for $206.
Go check the price for SRAM RED cassette:
Go check the price for SRAM RED cassette:
I was talking to my LBS. New D.A. rear Ti cluster: about $180. Campy Record cluster: almost $400.
Is that true? My LBS's opinion: Campy is nice, but way overpriced. D.A. is the best value in high end components. Few bike shops sell as many high end road bikes as my LBS.
Is that true? My LBS's opinion: Campy is nice, but way overpriced. D.A. is the best value in high end components. Few bike shops sell as many high end road bikes as my LBS.
02-04-08, 10:15 AM
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02-04-08, 10:16 AM
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How can you when you ride the bike how smooth the crank is......what with you also spinning the pedals, the chain, the cassette, wheels, tires............
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because I haven't seen any place selling 10 speed ultegra cassettes for $40. The CHEAPEST I have recently seen was about $46 from PBK with the 15% off and is now $53 on PBK.
I saw 105 for about $35 recently on PBK and it weighed oh...7 grams more than Ultegra and is now $39 on PBK.
You were talking value. That's a value cassette. Me? I'm running ultegra and Dura Ace but for $39...damn...it's almost a no brainer for a training cassette.
I saw 105 for about $35 recently on PBK and it weighed oh...7 grams more than Ultegra and is now $39 on PBK.
You were talking value. That's a value cassette. Me? I'm running ultegra and Dura Ace but for $39...damn...it's almost a no brainer for a training cassette.
02-04-08, 10:27 AM
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How can you NOT? Have you ridden both? There is ZERO bearing load on the campy bike's cranks. Best design bar none.
hell, the dura ace bike even has ceramic derailer pulley bearing. That's how stupid I am.
hell, the dura ace bike even has ceramic derailer pulley bearing. That's how stupid I am.
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Does that include going cold turkey from talking in the third person?
I hear that could be very therapeutic.
I hear that could be very therapeutic.
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No kidding; They opened this new outdoor shopping center near my home town a few years ago, and just recently a new bike shop opened up there. I was excited because I thought it'd be cool, but when I went in there you could tell that they were trying way too hard to be a hip bike shop. They had all of their road bikes on one side of the store, all Giants, and none with anything better than 105 components on them. Then the sales guy was acting like these bikes were the best bikes out there. I can imagine how someone new to cycling could be fooled by the sales pitch, but it was just pathetic.
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old news......
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I'm the opposite of the people that got Cypress banned (fat people eating cake is one of the most ironic bits of comedy) but I'm failing to see why this one is funny.
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No kidding; They opened this new outdoor shopping center near my home town a few years ago, and just recently a new bike shop opened up there. I was excited because I thought it'd be cool, but when I went in there you could tell that they were trying way too hard to be a hip bike shop. They had all of their road bikes on one side of the store, all Giants, and none with anything better than 105 components on them. Then the sales guy was acting like these bikes were the best bikes out there. I can imagine how someone new to cycling could be fooled by the sales pitch, but it was just pathetic.