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huffergoat 02-10-08 05:10 PM

Brake calipers are normally not very aero looking but in this case they seem to have tried even harder to get that brick shape.

SushiJoe 02-10-08 05:20 PM

I don't find the Zero-G's stopping power to be suspect [0G-07 Ti].
I also weigh 178 lbs.
Seems to me they'd stop even better for anyone weighing less than I.

umd 02-10-08 05:23 PM

Keep in mind these are negative g's, which are much heavier/beefier/stronger than the zero g's. But the point is that these are crazy expensive compared to the regular negative g's, because they are red and "special edition". They do look cool though...

SushiJoe 02-10-08 05:27 PM

Yeah, that's kind of what I was meaning. I figure the Negative-Gs will stop even better than my Zero Gs, which stop me pretty darn well. I REALLY like the anodized red though!

umd 02-10-08 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlashUNC (Post 6141163)
I've never understood the weight obsession, particularly with a component that I'd trade heft for knowing it'll actually work when I desperately need it to.

I descended over a million feet last year with my zero g's. I don't understand why people think that they won't work when needed.

SushiJoe 02-10-08 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by umd (Post 6141328)
I descended over a million feet last year with my zero g's. I don't understand why people think that they won't work when needed.

+1 million.

LowCel 02-10-08 05:48 PM

I only descended about 236,000 feet but I never had the first problem with mine stopping me. They slowed me down from speeds approaching 60 mph on several occasions. I'm generally in the 170 - 175 pound range. However, right now I am 185 pounds, I rode with them yesterday down five pretty good downhills, never even gave them a second thought.

I'm using 07 0G's.

umd 02-10-08 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SushiJoe (Post 6141350)
+1 million.

:P. From a cost/performance standpoint, they are silly, as are many weight-weenie things. (of course not as silly as this NERD version). But from a pure-performance standpoint, they work spectacularly well if set up correctly. Are they the best, no. Are they the best from a weight-weenie perspective? probably not... ax lightness, kcnc, etc.

patentcad 02-10-08 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by botto (Post 6141004)
probably because you like to stop when you hit the brakes.

That's only part of it.

SushiJoe 02-10-08 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by umd (Post 6141403)
:P. From a cost/performance standpoint, they are silly, as are many weight-weenie things. (of course not as silly as this NERD version). But from a pure-performance standpoint, they work spectacularly well if set up correctly. Are they the best, no. Are they the best from a weight-weenie perspective? probably not... ax lightness, kcnc, etc.

Yeah, I agree.

I like to consider myself option C when it comes to the two types of cyclist mentioned earlier. I look at my bike not only as a tool for gaining fitness and speed, but also a project I like to work on and add to with schwag when I can afford it.

I'm sure pcad will corroborate this.

It's fun to upgrade things that don't need it just because you can. Did I NEED to upgrade my Force to Red? No. Did I NEED ceramic bearings in my Mavic Ksyrium ES wheels? Probably not. Did I need Zero-G brakes? Not really. And botto can add his 2 cents about boutique QRs.

I think it's fun to always have something to look forward to other than getting fitter and faster. Cycling, for me is not only a passion, but a hobby and a way of life. [That's why I spend so much time on BFs ;)].

If you have the money and want to spend it on cycling: go for it. I don't spend money on much else so for me, it's justified. I like to field questions from people who think my bike looks cool, and if I hadn't already bought some 0G-07s and had an extra $666, I might be buying a set of the Red Negative-Gs.

We all have to draw the line somewhere, I suppose. :D

patentcad 02-10-08 06:37 PM

Those brakes are just too weight-weenie-OCP-over-the-top. It would sap all my energy explaining them to other roadies and defending myself on BF.

Pcad would become even more of a target than he is now.

They are The Schwag however. And the Pull of The Schwag is strong. This item is causing a ripple in the Pcad Time Space Continuum.

Hickeydog 02-10-08 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by botto (Post 6141004)
probably because you like to stop when you hit the brakes.

don't we all?

SushiJoe 02-10-08 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 6141641)
Those brakes are just too weight-weenie-OCP-over-the-top. It would sap all my energy explaining them to other roadies and defending myself on BF.

Pcad would become even more of a target than he is now.

They are The Schwag however. And the Pull of The Schwag is strong. This item is causing a ripple in the Pcad Time Space Continuum.

Those 666 Brakes, the $60 Swiss Stop pads for carbon rims and a set of $16,000 custom LEW rims: What would this scenario do to your Time Space Continuum pcad?

Schwag-O-Meter Overload?

elgalad 02-10-08 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SushiJoe (Post 6141664)
Those 666 Brakes, the $60 Swiss Stop pads for carbon rims and a set of $16,000 custom LEW rims: What would this scenario do to your Time Space Continuum pcad?

Schwag-O-Meter Overload?

One word: divorce.

kudude 02-10-08 06:48 PM

Can everyone PLEASE stop hating on zeroG's? I don't own them, but I've NEVER heard a story about, "I was coming down this wicked hill, and an old lady was crossing the street in front of me and I couldn't stop in time. If only I'd had Dura-Ace brakes with the salmon koolstop pads and some nice, somwhat conservative teflon brake cables she would be here to hit you with a handbag today."

The hate is Schwagg related. No one can deny that with a straight face.

elgalad 02-10-08 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kudude (Post 6141705)
Can everyone PLEASE stop hating on zeroG's? I don't own them, but I've NEVER heard a story about, "I was coming down this wicked hill, and an old lady was crossing the street in front of me and I couldn't stop in time. If only I'd had Dura-Ace brakes with the salmon koolstop pads and some nice, somwhat conservative teflon brake cables she would be here to hit you with a handbag today."

The hate is Schwagg related. No one can deny that with a straight face.

Well that's because the sort of people who buy Zero-G brakes don't actually ride their bikes ;)

SushiJoe 02-10-08 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kudude (Post 6141705)
Can everyone PLEASE stop hating on zeroG's? I don't own them, but I've NEVER heard a story about, "I was coming down this wicked hill, and an old lady was crossing the street in front of me and I couldn't stop in time. If only I'd had Dura-Ace brakes with the salmon koolstop pads and some nice, somwhat conservative teflon brake cables she would be here to hit you with a handbag today."

The hate is Schwagg related. No one can deny that with a straight face.

^^^ I Own and Love a pair of ZeroGs :D

patentcad 02-10-08 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elgalad (Post 6141679)
One word: divorce.

Marriage is over rated. My Mom is a divorce attorney. Sadly for Pcad she has repeatedly informed me that in any marital dispute she will be representing Mrs. Pcad. I would have the Zero G's as a consolation prize of course. But the baggage I would carry into the dating scene would swamp that 100 gram weight savings.

elgalad 02-10-08 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 6141720)
Marriage is over rated. My Mom is a divorce attorney. Sadly for Pcad she has repeatedly informed me that in any marital dispute she will be representing Mrs. Pcad.

You need to get a divorce from your mum ;)

patentcad 02-10-08 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elgalad (Post 6141725)
You need to get a divorce from your mum ;)

Or I could have my childhood annulled. I don't really need it, I'm re-living it here on BF anyway.

Savagewolf 02-10-08 07:37 PM

I don't know, I like the idea of having Zero G's with the bling factor, but those just don't look that great to me and I couldn't imagine spending that much for them. I'd rather buy other bike gear with that money.

elgalad 02-10-08 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SushiJoe (Post 6141718)
^^^ I Own and Love a pair of ZeroGs :D

I never would have guessed.

patentcad 02-10-08 07:58 PM

Come on you weenies, there is no greater velo bling that can be had for a lousy $600.

elgalad 02-10-08 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 6142114)
Come on you weenies, there is no greater velo bling that can be had for a lousy $600.

I can get a set of 50mm FSA carbon tubulars for $600. They're more bling, and I guarantee you they'll do more for your performance than some zero-g brakes.

patentcad 02-10-08 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elgalad (Post 6142133)
They're more bling,

FSA ≠ Bling.

As for performance, this is the wrong thread.

SushiJoe 02-10-08 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 6142145)

As for performance, this is the wrong thread.

True.


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