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Johnny_Monkey 03-06-08 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by shuffles (Post 6290727)
Clearly you have never owned or driven an Alfa Romeo or Fiat. They look great, but the engineering and production quality, not so hot.

What Fiats look great?

GlassWolf 03-06-08 02:47 PM

the X1/9 was kinda cute back in the day.
like a precursor to the Fiero and MR2

Pasqually 03-06-08 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by Johnny_Monkey (Post 6292394)
What Fiats look great?

fiat 131 abarth

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Abarth_001.JPG

even has campagnolo rims.


how much did I want this car as a child, watching it rally, the sound of the 80's rally cars can not be matched.

We had a low spec 131, my dad would start a fire under the engine in winter to get it to start.

There are many very good looking fiat, alfa and lancia and they drive better than most. Quality may not be there, but the chassis is.

Johnny_Monkey 03-07-08 03:39 AM

I suppose you like ******* as well.

rufvelo 03-07-08 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by Johnny_Monkey (Post 6296091)
I suppose you like ******* as well.

Yep, old Euro *******, Capris

Johnny_Monkey 03-08-08 03:07 AM


Originally Posted by rufvelo (Post 6300125)
Yep, old Euro *******, Capris

Capris...

As driven by these guys.

http://content.answers.com/main/cont...owleybodie.jpg

Pasqually 03-08-08 03:40 AM


Originally Posted by Johnny_Monkey (Post 6296091)
I suppose you like ******* as well.

they are allright. A real DBA esky sounds incredible.

German and french cars my fave, then italian.

logdrum 03-08-08 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by Bacciagalupe (Post 6201499)
Yeah, those Nikon, Canon and Mamiya cameras are just total crap. Who would want any of that junk? :D

I think you can say that Swiss precision is better than high-quality mass production, but in most cases you're splitting hairs, and I can't even count how many pro shooters use Japanese-made cameras and optics. Or for bikes, how many pros ride Asian-made frames and components.

Is it me, or does it seem unlikely that Dura-Ace is made in Italy? :)

A factory is a factory is a factory. All Pinarello needs is a) good relationships with the manufacturers and b) good QA staff, and it doesn't matter one bit where it comes from.

If it's about precision, then why does the silicon industry depend on Nikon (and Cannon) lenses and steppers for making logic and memory devices. Precision lithography in making silicon products go down to a precision level of as much as 45 nanometers. The Japanese own this realm of high end optics.


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