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Campy users: Miche or Campy cassette?

Old 02-27-08, 07:05 PM
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Campy users: Miche or Campy cassette?

I need a cassette for my conversion to Campy. Should I get the Miche cassette for $55 or the Campy Veloce Cassette for the same price? Is there any reasonable difference?
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Stick with campy brah.
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Originally Posted by IAMTB
I need a cassette for my conversion to Campy. Should I get the Miche cassette for $55 or the Campy Veloce Cassette for the same price? Is there any reasonable difference?
If they're the same price, there's no reason to get the Miche.
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Miche, but only because Campy doesn't make a 12-27.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
Miche, but only because Campy doesn't make a 12-27.
What if he doesn't want a 12-27?
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Originally Posted by veggiemafia
What if he doesn't want a 12-27?
Then choose your own adventure tells you to go to post #2
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I have the Miche 12-27 cassette and find it about equal to the Record cassette, in terms of shift quality. Not quite as smooth, but it's functional. Weighs like a pig, though.

If, as I suspect, the Veloce and the Miche cassettes are about equal in weight, I'd get the Veloce for the same price.
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The real thing shifts better than the Miche.
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For me the question is: what compelling reason is there to NOT use the Campy cassette?

I'm still buying Campy cassettes by the fistful.
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Campy - first choice

I tried IRD for my cross which needed wider gears 12 -32, and is working fine w/ my Record Gruppo.
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Originally Posted by CastIron
For me the question is: what compelling reason is there to NOT use the Campy cassette?

I'm still buying Campy cassettes by the fistful.
Different gear ranges are available and the Miche has all separate cogs so they are more customizable. So if you want something Campy doesn't sell, there you go.
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So how many of the people expressing a preference have actually tried both?
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Originally Posted by halfspeed
So how many of the people expressing a preference have actually tried both?
The only possible difference between them that can possibly be non-objective is the mentioned shifting performance.
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Originally Posted by veggiemafia
What if he doesn't want a 12-27?
I thought EVERYONE wanted a 12-27.

WRT shifting, the Miche 12-27 shifts as well as the Campy 12-25 it replaced, which shifted as well as the American Classic 12-28 on the wheelset I swapped out that had an Ultegra hub.

In other words, as far as I can tell, the shifting is equal - instantaneous and quiet. Not as quiet as my old Dura Ace - it still has the Campy "clank" when downshifting - but very nice.
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I just bought campy cables for 60 friggin bucks! I have to have my build done by tomorrow or friday so I don't have time to order from pbk. Should have ordered it when I ordered my chain and cassette a couple of weeks ago...

The same cable set there was 28 bucks and they have a cheaper one for 13...

Wow. I'd be really upset with myself right now if my LBS wasn't awesome and helped me along the course of my build (tools and advice) for free.
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Originally Posted by CastIron
For me the question is: what compelling reason is there to NOT use the Campy cassette?

I'm still buying Campy cassettes by the fistful.
Isn't a cassette already a fistful?
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Campagnolo. Esp. if it's the same price.
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campy! No experience with miche cassettes, but vs shimano they get about double the mileage!
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I put an 11-23t Miche on my Ti bike with a 50/34 Ct crank.

The Chrome plated Miche is definitely a little rougher and noisier than the Campy cassettes. After about 2000mi of running in, it is actually starting get quieter. I just didn't bother to clean the chain for about 6 months, and let the grit grind away at the teethe to wear them in. I just added motor oil to keep it lubed. The Miche is heavily Chrome plated, and really feels clunky, compared to the nickel plated Campy's, but it does work fine.
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Thanks for the input, Veloce cassette on the way.
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Also,

Nickel plating is tougher than chrome plating.
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Originally Posted by halfspeed
Different gear ranges are available and the Miche has all separate cogs so they are more customizable. So if you want something Campy doesn't sell, there you go.
This may sound dumb, but Campy cassettes are also all separate cogs. I know this because I took out that little plastic retainer they come on and they all fell to the floor. Separately. So, aren't the Campy cassettes then just as customizable?
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Originally Posted by littledjahn
This may sound dumb, but Campy cassettes are also all separate cogs. I know this because I took out that little plastic retainer they come on and they all fell to the floor. Separately. So, aren't the Campy cassettes then just as customizable?
Some are, some aren't. Some cassettes have the last four cogs in two sets of two. Some have the last three cogs together as one unit. Why is that? Or, if anyone is in the know, which clusters are all individual cogs, and which ones aren't?

Another question: can you mix and match Campy and Miche cogs? Will individual Miche cogs fit into an otherwise Campy cluster?
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