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CrimsonKarter21 03-23-08 07:25 PM

"Carbon 101"
 
http://www.salsacycles.com/amigos/

a nice little article from Salsa about carbon production factories in China. FYI, Salsa doesn't sell full carbon bikes, so I'd like to think that this is unbiased.

StupidlyBrave 03-23-08 07:31 PM

Good god, what is wrong with these people.

Pizza Hut and KFC? :)

Nice find. :)

WheresWaldo 03-23-08 09:02 PM

The following quote is typical of the bike industry, like it is some secret organization:

I won't name names, but many products and brands were represented including many that I did not expect.

ted ward 03-23-08 09:32 PM


Originally Posted by WheresWaldo (Post 6392183)
The following quote is typical of the bike industry, like it is some secret organization:

I won't name names, but many products and brands were represented including many that I did not expect.

Yeah, the truth is too dangerous :)

sixtyten 03-23-08 09:45 PM


Originally Posted by WheresWaldo (Post 6392183)
The following quote is typical of the bike industry, like it is some secret organization:

I won't name names, but many products and brands were represented including many that I did not expect.

It's not really exclusive to the bicycle industry. There's probably a non-disclosure agreement involved.

gtmandsager 03-23-08 09:47 PM


Originally Posted by CrimsonKarter21 (Post 6391559)
http://www.salsacycles.com/amigos/
FYI, Salsa doesn't sell full carbon bikes

Reading the article, sounds like it's only a matter of time until they do...

mrbubbles 03-23-08 09:59 PM

I still wouldn't buy their bikes, with a name like Salsa, I expect to be served Quesadillas.

Tapeworm21 03-23-08 10:19 PM


Originally Posted by CrimsonKarter21 (Post 6391559)
http://www.salsacycles.com/amigos/
FYI, Salsa doesn't sell full carbon bikes, so I'd like to think that this is unbiased.

You're right, but they compete against companies that do. Therefore, it can bring biasness to an article.

However, it wasn't really the author's opinion. It was more of a "So I went to China and this is what I saw." Interesting none the less.

christama 03-23-08 10:35 PM

I think the think I enjoyed most was the insight into how the factories are run. A large portion of Americans still think that Chinese made bikes are welded by 6 year old girls who are forced to work 16 hour days in dirty, dangerous factories. This article, and one I've read from a prominent engineer in BMX have both confirmed this to be false.

OldRoadGuy 03-23-08 10:56 PM


Originally Posted by mrbubbles (Post 6392502)
I still wouldn't buy their bikes, with a name like Salsa, I expect to be served Quesadillas.

I assume you're kidding...
The company started by Ross Schafer Salsa Cycles is legendary.
"In days gone by the Salsa name was associated with legendary American frame builder Ross Schaeffer"

mrbubbles 03-23-08 11:06 PM


Originally Posted by OldRoadGuy (Post 6392832)
I assume you're kidding...
The company started by Ross Schafer Salsa Cycles is legendary.
"In days gone by the Salsa name was associated with legendary American frame builder Ross Schaeffer"

I am, I was looking to buy a Salsa La Cruz but the geometry doesn't fit me, hence I would not buy their bikes yet.

OldRoadGuy 03-23-08 11:09 PM


Originally Posted by mrbubbles (Post 6392867)
I am, I was looking to buy a Salsa La Cruz but the geometry doesn't fit me, hence I would not buy their bikes yet.

;)

Zinn-X 03-24-08 01:27 AM


Originally Posted by WheresWaldo (Post 6392183)
The following quote is typical of the bike industry, like it is some secret organization:

I won't name names, but many products and brands were represented including many that I did not expect.

NDA

roadwarrior 03-24-08 03:49 AM

My carbon and my partially carbon bikes were not made in China.

You guys would have a heart attack if you knew what expensive and high end stuff comes out of China. Although Taiwan quality has a better reputation. The better bike companies do their best stuff via Taiwan.

I'll start. Guess which company gets their frames from this source? And Merida is top notch, as is the bike company for whom they make frames.

varian72 03-24-08 04:22 AM

Looks like a Cervelo R3 in that photo. Note the sqoval tube and the flat, wide area where the seat stays attach behind the seatpost.

dcbikeguy 03-24-08 04:34 AM


Originally Posted by OldRoadGuy (Post 6392832)
I assume you're kidding...
The company started by Ross Schafer Salsa Cycles is legendary.
"In days gone by the Salsa name was associated with legendary American frame builder Ross Schaeffer"

That may be true - but please try and explain this...

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u...powerLSJer.jpg


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