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Old 03-28-08, 08:13 AM
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Went to LBS lastnight

Performance LBS - They recommended the 2008 Fuji Newest 3.0 for both my fiancee and I, but they only come in one color. He had me try a 58 (im 6'2) and it maybe had half an inch clearence from the standover on the toptube... and on the seat only my tippy toes could touch the ground. then we tried a 56 and the standover was better, maybe 1-2inches but he was saying i just look cramped in riding position and i should do the 58. my fiancee however was fitted for a 42 (shes got short legs )

the price on the bike was on sale for 499, plus this weekend they are having a special 20% cash back in store credit (so 200 bucks store credit might let us pick out some free gear)

The lifetime free service on the bikes also sounds tempting, so you pay a little extra for lifetime service and 20% cash back...really tempting, im just confused on the size of my bike, we didnt get to test ride because it was dark and they have a policy against testing them in the dark lol
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Standover height is not super-meaningful. It should be how you feel while riding. I would not spend $400 on a bike without a test ride, go back today.
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Yeah no doubt, were going back this weekend because thats when the double points (20% off) is.

are the 08 Fuji's any good?

they seem pretty nice, no STI shifting but starting out as beginners i guess we dont really need that right?
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no STI? What does it have, downtube shifters? STI is worth the upgrade $ unless you are into vintage bikes like moi.
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https://fujibikes.com/2008/bikes.asp?id=411

there's the bike

(it's got those thumb downshifters)
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Yes it does.

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yeah im new to road bikes so sorry if im screwing up the terminology lol..

but to shift up you snap the brakes to the inside, and shift down theres little thumb things.. from what the salesman told me the sti had the downshifting on the inside of the brakes so you never have to move your hand
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I think that bike pretty much sucks.
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Originally Posted by mullenium
Performance LBS - They recommended the 2008 Fuji Newest 3.0 for both my fiancee and I, but they only come in one color. He had me try a 58 (im 6'2) and it maybe had half an inch clearence from the standover on the toptube... and on the seat only my tippy toes could touch the ground. then we tried a 56 and the standover was better, maybe 1-2inches but he was saying i just look cramped in riding position and i should do the 58. my fiancee however was fitted for a 42 (shes got short legs )
Just so you know I can only touch one foot on the ground at a time when I am on the saddle. Standover height really has very little (if any) affect on sizing.
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Originally Posted by bonechilling
I think that bike pretty much sucks.

lol why's that?
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Originally Posted by bonechilling
I think that bike pretty much sucks.
For the price I don't see anything wrong with it at all.
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Originally Posted by mullenium
He had me try a 58 (im 6'2) and it maybe had half an inch clearence from the standover on the toptube... and on the seat only my tippy toes could touch the ground.
This sounds about right to me. You should NOT be able to place both feet on the ground when your butt is on the seat.

Think about it: You know that when you pedal your "down" leg should be just slightly from having a locked knee - it should just about be straight. If you could achieve this while sitting on the seat while still being able to put both feet on the ground, then your pedal would hit the ground each stroke! Obviously this won't work.

If you are worried about stops/starts and mounts/dismounts, the proper technique is as follows:
Throw your leg over the top tube and stand on the ground with both feet. Note that in order to do this you will likely have to tilt the whole bike towards you as you step over. You should end up standing forward of the seat, not trying to sit on it. Take whichever foot you are going to start out pedaling with (in my case, usually the left one), hook it under that pedal, and lift the pedal up by back-pedaling until the pedal is up at about the 11:00 o'clock position - just forward of top-dead-center. While still standing across the center tube - not sitting on the seat - put your foot on that pedal (clip-in if your using that type of pedal) and give a push, which starts you moving forward. As the bike begins to move, and your pedal goes to the botton of the stroke, lift your butt onto the seat and put your other foot on the pedal and just start pedaling.

To come to a stop or to dismount, decide first which foot you are going to put down on the ground. This is important if you are stopping where, for some reason, the ground under one side of the bike is lower than the other, such as at the edge of the pavement where there may be a drop-off onto the shoulder. You want to put your foot down on the high-ground side (ask me how I know this!) Anyway, just before the bike comes to a full stop, take your "ground" foot off of the pedal, push the "other foot" down on it's pedal, and use the "other foot" to lift your butt off of the seat and slightly forward (stand up, sort of) so that when the bike comes to a stop you have one foot on the ground and the other foot on a pedal at the bottom of its stroke.


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you will get used to that set up.
ride it a bunch, figure out what you like / dislike, then sell and upgrade, or keep riding it.
I would replace the adjustable stem before I left the store though.
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Here's a link to an article on the Harris Cyclery web site that probably explains it far better than I can:

https://sheldonbrown.com/starting.html
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For an extra 100 bucks they had the newest 2.0, maybe i should go with the 2.0 and get my fiancee the 3.0 so we dont have matching color bikes ::grins::

https://fujibikes.com/2008/bikes.asp?id=409
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Personally it would be worth the extra $100 to me to upgrade. However, your wallet is going to have to make that decision. They are both nice bikes to start out on.
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The 20% credit is probably relating to their double points weekend, which requires a membership for $25 (worth it considering the size of purchase you're making) so you won't be able to redeem them that day. You'll have to wait a day or two.

As for matching bikes, that is cute. In the 70's and 80's it was the cool thing to do for spouses to have matching bikes. My parents had matching "champagne" colored Centurions. What makes you not want to match? With the difference in sizes, I doubt you'll accidentally take the wrong bike!

Oh, and +1 on the upgrade. STI shifters are so much more comfortable and convenient. Test ride both, try the shifting and decide for yourself.
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Seems like a perfect beginer bike to me. Ride the heck out of it for a year or so, then buy a $3000+ bike and keep that one for the rain.

If your lady has trouble keeping up with you, or you with her, then look into renting a tandem and see if you like that. Just be aware, which ever way your relationship is headed, the tandem will get you there faster.
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Originally Posted by mullenium
yeah im new to road bikes so sorry if im screwing up the terminology lol..

but to shift up you snap the brakes to the inside, and shift down theres little thumb things.. from what the salesman told me the sti had the downshifting on the inside of the brakes so you never have to move your hand
I'm not completely sure how Sora operates, but the up/down shifting are opposite for front derailer and rear derailer. For the rear, thumb button upshifts (more resistance) and brakes downshift (less resistance). Front derailer is the other way around.

The disadvantages to sora are that it's hard to use those thumb buttons while in the drops (I don't think it's that important), you can't trim the front derailer to reduce chain noise/friction (if you've never done that, you won't miss it), and that you can't downshift multiple cogs with one motion. I.e., depending on how far you swing the lever, you can shift from 16->15, 16->14, or 16->13 all in one go. This actually really does help if you want to pedal hard for as long as you can while on a flat and approaching a hill. You'd be surprised how long click-click-click takes when you're heading up a hill in too high a gear.

That said, if I were in your position (I was, not too long ago) I would buy the Fuji. Don't let the detractors scare you. A cheap road bike is better than no road bike at all! (Yes, you can buy used, but it's very intimidating if you don't know what you're looking for.)
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Originally Posted by Shayne
If your lady has trouble keeping up with you, or you with her, then look into renting a tandem and see if you like that. Just be aware, which ever way your relationship is headed, the tandem will get you there faster.
Yes, I am considering a tandem for my wife and me (it's the only way she will ride with me) but I have been warned that tandems are called "widow makers" and "divorce machines".
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Originally Posted by Shayne
be aware, which ever way your relationship is headed, the tandem will get you there faster.

ROFL that's a good one
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Originally Posted by norskagent
you will get used to that set up.
ride it a bunch, figure out what you like / dislike, then sell and upgrade, or keep riding it.

I would replace the adjustable stem before I left the store though.
I would actually keep the adjustable stem so you can try different stem angles. Then, when you find a position that is comfortable for you, you could buy a fixed stem.
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I would actually keep the adjustable stem so you can try different stem angles. Then, when you find a position that is comfortable for you, you could buy a fixed stem.
Why is it not soo good to keep the adjustable?
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I dont even think the 2.0 has STI, id have to jump up to somethin like the Robiaux (sp?)
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Adjustable is only less desirable because (1) it's heavier than a non adjustable one, and (2) it has a *slight* potential to slip if the bolts are not tightened properly.

You'll have to keep in mind that the members here sometimes forget that not everyone is trying to buy or build a 15 lb bike with handlebars 6" below the seat.

As for the STI, I recommend you try any bike with it. If you're not impressed, go back to the Newest and be happy. We didn't even have STI 20 years ago, and people survived the Tour de France without it, so it's obviously not a necessity.
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