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Old 05-12-08, 02:53 PM
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Tammy Thomas.
-1 unit.
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Not who THINKS he's the man -- who IS the man.
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Originally Posted by CyLowe97
Tammy Thomas.
that one made me laugh.
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
The OP's question was not "Who is the Curmudgeon"
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The ASO is the man, deciding that even winners/podium finishers (Contador, Levi, Kloden) can't be at this year's tour. Last year they stuck it to unibet, killing a protour sponsor. No one else in cycling can really stick it to others like that...
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Originally Posted by mconlonx
Grant Petersen.
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Tullio Campagnolo...blessed by Popes while he was here and, Im sure, tunes up JC's bike before he goes for a ride now.


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If he isnt "The Man" Im not sure who is....

Campagnolo died in 1983, just after the introduction of the "Gruppo del Cinquantenario" (50th anniversary Campagnolo groupset). Gruppo Number 0002 was presented to Pope John Paul II in a private audience for a delegation of Italian cycling enthusiasts later that year.
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Originally Posted by CyLowe97
Tammy Thomas.
Drum-roll counting on 5...4...3...
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+1 This place is going to try and take over the World as soon as they can. They definitely want to destroy Japan and take Taiwan back first..... that is only if God doesn't smite us down with more earthquakes and freak storms before then
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OCP............stick it to the OCPs
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You guys have clearly not been paying attention.

Lance Armstrong is the man in our little cycling industry, at least in the US.

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Originally Posted by Creakyknees
You guys have clearly not been paying attention.

Lance Armstrong is the man in our little cycling industry, at least in the US.

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Hmmmmm....gotta disagree here. I have never found myself wishing I could find a way to stick to Lance. Now...I have always wanted to stick to Trek though....
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There is only one entity that has serious control over the entire industry. That is Shimano. Not one person but a father and 2 sons. NO-ONE has nearly as much power or influence in cycling.

They dictate production schedules, industry wide spec, who gets what and when. Bike companies, frame makers, componant makers, OE factories, aftermarket distributors and your LBS are ALL at their mercy.
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Originally Posted by Bob Dopolina
There is only one entity that has serious control over the entire industry. That is Shimano. Not one person but a father and 2 sons. NO-ONE has nearly as much power or influence in cycling.

They dictate production schedules, industry wide spec, who gets what and when. Bike companies, frame makers, componant makers, OE factories, aftermarket distributors and your LBS are ALL at their mercy.
I thought Shimano was the man in the fishing industry.
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I thought Shimano was the man in the fishing industry.
Those bastages got us comin' and goin'!
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Originally Posted by RichinPeoria
If he isnt "The Man" Im not sure who is....

Campagnolo died in 1983, just after the introduction of the "Gruppo del Cinquantenario" (50th anniversary Campagnolo groupset). Gruppo Number 0002 was presented to Pope John Paul II in a private audience for a delegation of Italian cycling enthusiasts later that year.
Originally Posted by RichinPeoria
Tullio Campagnolo...blessed by Popes while he was here and, Im sure, tunes up JC's bike before he goes for a ride now.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tullio_Campagnolo
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There is only one entity that has serious control over the entire industry. That is Shimano. Not one person but a father and 2 sons. NO-ONE has nearly as much power or influence in cycling.

They dictate production schedules, industry wide spec, who gets what and when. Bike companies, frame makers, componant makers, OE factories, aftermarket distributors and your LBS are ALL at their mercy.
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Originally Posted by Bob Dopolina
There is only one entity that has serious control over the entire industry. That is Shimano. Not one person but a father and 2 sons. NO-ONE has nearly as much power or influence in cycling.

They dictate production schedules, industry wide spec, who gets what and when. Bike companies, frame makers, componant makers, OE factories, aftermarket distributors and your LBS are ALL at their mercy.
If that was true, then SRAM could never have launched a road line and gotten it on bikes as stock equipment. So no.

I say the UCI! The weight limit, no disk brakes in cyclocross. They are the man.
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If that was true, then SRAM could never have launched a road line and gotten it on bikes as stock equipment. So no.

I say the UCI! The weight limit, no disk brakes in cyclocross. They are the man.
Incorrect.

This is a VERY limited view of the cycling industry. It affects .01% of the world wide market. Not even in the game.

Because Shimano is in the position they are (and use it) there are many companies who don't like it. The fact that Product Managers had a choice, for a change, meant that some went for Sram. Sram was aggressive in the pricing for OE and this was a big bonus. Also, Sram has a real presence in MTB so companies who are stronger in MTB than road were more open to Sram than other companies.

Add to this the MASSIVE delays coming from Shimano in the last few years (and this year) and many companies didn't want to find themselves in the same position again where bigs didn't make it to the showroom floor until much later in the season than many would have liked.

Sram offered, and delivered on time. This meant that bikes were in the store when they needed to be. Everyone was happy.

Sram got OE spec because of Shimano's dominant position.

If Campagnolo were effective in the OE they would have picked up spec as well. But they aren't so the didn't.

Simply put, no other entity in the bike business or sport can dictate to the ENTIRE world wide industry that they need to change the spacing on the frame, for instance, or which size BB will become the standard.

This one is a no brainer. I have worked in the industry for 25 years and no other entity has ever held this much sway. In fact, the 'A-Team' was formed in Taiwan to directly counter the Shimano dominance. Sram also benefits from this (although they lost ROAD spec in their second year) as the anti-Shimano sentiment grows.

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