Cannondale in the paper this morning... (Cdn Globe and Mail)
05-15-08, 07:03 AM
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Cannondale in the paper this morning... (Cdn Globe and Mail)
https://www.reportonbusiness.com/serv...nletter_newsUp
Looks like some people aren't liking buying their high end road bike from a company that also makes baby strollers.
Interesting the bit about Specialized getting involved.
Looks like some people aren't liking buying their high end road bike from a company that also makes baby strollers.
Interesting the bit about Specialized getting involved.
05-15-08, 07:46 AM
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"The fact that Dorel is in other businesses of a more pedestrian nature – ready-to-assemble furniture, children's car seats and strollers – hasn't helped. Some critics have taken issue with the notion that a consumer products manufacturer supplying Wal-Mart can be trusted to maintain the higher standards required to design, develop and sell top-end machines."
Wal-Mart and top-end machines in the same sentence. ERRRRRRRR
“It's a better quality, nicer weld, with more patents.”
Always comes down to the patents, doesn't it.
Wal-Mart and top-end machines in the same sentence. ERRRRRRRR
“It's a better quality, nicer weld, with more patents.”
Always comes down to the patents, doesn't it.
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05-15-08, 07:53 AM
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>>In a letter of response to the dealers, Dorel's Cannondale Sports Group president and chief executive officer Jeff Frehner – who logs between 200 and 250 miles a week on one of his 15 racing bikes – called Mr. Sinyard's charges the “wild speculations and mud slinging of a competitor.” He mused that “perhaps Specialized is intimidated.”<<
Correct.
I could tell you stories about what a bunch of unfathomable scumbags Specialized can be (in the manner that is treats its 'speciality retailers) that would make your friggin toes curl.
Correct.
I could tell you stories about what a bunch of unfathomable scumbags Specialized can be (in the manner that is treats its 'speciality retailers) that would make your friggin toes curl.
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Seems like a bunch of baseless assumptions.
Just cause VW owns Lamorghini, it didn't end up being a mass market car. Or Ford owning Volvo, but they are still worlds apart.
Was GT ever a high-end brand? I remember when I was a kid, I went into a specialty bike store in the 90s and they were like "GT.... you mean garbage transportation?". I had a GT bike back then so it kinda stuck in my head.
Just cause VW owns Lamorghini, it didn't end up being a mass market car. Or Ford owning Volvo, but they are still worlds apart.
Was GT ever a high-end brand? I remember when I was a kid, I went into a specialty bike store in the 90s and they were like "GT.... you mean garbage transportation?". I had a GT bike back then so it kinda stuck in my head.
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>>In a letter of response to the dealers, Dorel's Cannondale Sports Group president and chief executive officer Jeff Frehner – who logs between 200 and 250 miles a week on one of his 15 racing bikes – called Mr. Sinyard's charges the “wild speculations and mud slinging of a competitor.” He mused that “perhaps Specialized is intimidated.”<<
Correct.
I could tell you stories about what a bunch of unfathomable scumbags Specialized can be (in the manner that is treats its 'speciality retailers) that would make your friggin toes curl.
Correct.
I could tell you stories about what a bunch of unfathomable scumbags Specialized can be (in the manner that is treats its 'speciality retailers) that would make your friggin toes curl.
Yep.
It's been my experience in both business and competitively that the more a competitor focuses on you, to the point of it almost being a fetish (as in the case of Sinyard and Specialized on Cannondale) the more they are getting their @$$es kicked in the marketplace.
I really laughed when I started seeing Specialized using the term "System Integration".
Funny...I've sold, as I recall, six "high end" Cannondales in the last week and have two more on order.
And I love my Super Six frame. Outstanding stuff.
Last, very very few people even are aware of any of this stuff. Which may be part of the reason why Specialized is spending so much time on it. Which means they are not paying attention to their knitting.
Many in the bike business are losing respect for Specialized and laughing along the way.
It's really pretty sad. There's plenty of business for everyone.
The guy is losing a lot of respect within the industry. But he's got a lot to fear. With that kind of dough behind Cannondale, there's no telling what R&D might do. Sinyard owns Specialized along with a piece of it being owned by Merida (who makes their frames in Taiwan). He may be worried about having to raise capital, maybe even sell the company. Who knows?
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Then there's this company called Ferrari.
I guess Mr. Sinyard is not a multi-tasker.
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Haven't noticed Rolls Royce quality or value going down since BMW started producing them.
I suspect that Cannondale will be just fine; perhaps, even better than had it not been
acquired. Waiting for the Fall and my stimulus check as, at present, the Super Six is at
the top of my list :-) There is something about the Cannondale feel that speaks to me
better than other makes and models.
I suspect that Cannondale will be just fine; perhaps, even better than had it not been
acquired. Waiting for the Fall and my stimulus check as, at present, the Super Six is at
the top of my list :-) There is something about the Cannondale feel that speaks to me
better than other makes and models.
05-15-08, 11:16 AM
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If it makes you feel any better Pcad is not for sale*, so his quality will never change.
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And don't even mention the fact that the top end Specialized bikes have now adopted the BB30 standard that Cannondale uses. Of course they don't say that it is BB30 but everyone knows it is.
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05-15-08, 12:53 PM
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In my bicycle search detailed in another thread, I asked the Fuji dealer if he could also order Cannondale bikes. (He has access to Pacific brands, and stocks some GT MTBs).
He said he wished he could, but Dorel is keeping Cannondale exclusive and seperate from Pacific, and thusly he can't order them. He's working on getting C'dale, but they will NOT let him buy through his Pacific connection/supplier. Period. No exceptions.
He said he wished he could, but Dorel is keeping Cannondale exclusive and seperate from Pacific, and thusly he can't order them. He's working on getting C'dale, but they will NOT let him buy through his Pacific connection/supplier. Period. No exceptions.
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[QUOTE=patentcad
Correct.
I could tell you stories about what a bunch of unfathomable scumbags Specialized can be (in the manner that is treats its 'speciality retailers) that would make your friggin toes curl.[/QUOTE]
I'm up for a good toe curl. How about a story?
Correct.
I could tell you stories about what a bunch of unfathomable scumbags Specialized can be (in the manner that is treats its 'speciality retailers) that would make your friggin toes curl.[/QUOTE]
I'm up for a good toe curl. How about a story?
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On this ground-breaking news Cannondale stock is screaming along at $0.05 per share.
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05-15-08, 08:26 PM
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In my bicycle search detailed in another thread, I asked the Fuji dealer if he could also order Cannondale bikes. (He has access to Pacific brands, and stocks some GT MTBs).
He said he wished he could, but Dorel is keeping Cannondale exclusive and seperate from Pacific, and thusly he can't order them. He's working on getting C'dale, but they will NOT let him buy through his Pacific connection/supplier. Period. No exceptions.
He said he wished he could, but Dorel is keeping Cannondale exclusive and seperate from Pacific, and thusly he can't order them. He's working on getting C'dale, but they will NOT let him buy through his Pacific connection/supplier. Period. No exceptions.
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I heard Specialized also uses top tubes, head tubes, down tubes, seat stays, chain stays, seat tubes and wheels on their bikes... just like Cannondale.
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It is an open standard that anyone is free to use. https://www.bb30standard.com/faq.html
I heard Specialized also uses top tubes, head tubes, down tubes, seat stays, chain stays, seat tubes and wheels on their bikes... just like Cannondale.
I heard Specialized also uses top tubes, head tubes, down tubes, seat stays, chain stays, seat tubes and wheels on their bikes... just like Cannondale.
Originally Posted by BB30standard.com
In 1993, Cannondale changed frame standards by externalizing crankset bearings to gain a stiffer pedaling system. In 2000 while the industry standard bottom bracket spindle diameter was still 24mm Cannondale introduced their System Integrated (Si) crankset designed in conjunction with an oversized bottom bracket shell and 30mm spindle, further reducing weight and increasing stiffness.
Cannondale currently uses BB30, complete with Si Hollowgram crankets and Si carbon cranksets, on their top line elite road racing bikes and mountain bikes. While both Cannondale and Specialized make bottom bracket/crank assemblies that work with BB30, other crank manufacturers have expressed interest.
For information on Cannondale bicycles visit: www.cannondale.com or call +31 541573580 in Europe.
Information, engineering drawings and tech notes for BB30 can be found at www.BB30standard.com/tech
BB30 is a free international standard that both frame and component companies can utilize to offer consumers more choice and better performance. The following manufacturers currently use this standard to improve performance.