tpelle

That's gotta be one of the best come-backs EVER!

caloso

Thanks. (But I do have to admit he's right. We do whine to much about the price of gas....)

Cat1

those analogies are pretty useless. All made up by right wing wackos to justify high gas. Fact is I dont need 20 gallons of any of those a week and the economy doesnt live or die by any of them either.

Slackerprince

You never drink outrageously-priced bottled water?
I am not an oil industry advocate or employee, I just
pasted those from a forwarded e-mail as a counter-example
to oil prices.

S.

Keegan

We've got a diesel Suburban. It's not too bad since it's not our main vehicle for errands etc.

buddy

Let me get on a more practical plain.

How does $4.00 gas affect our cities and bike riding?

I was with a friend of mine who serves on our city counsel and I was asking him of the wisdom of building a multi-billion dollar loop around our city if the price of gas is $10.00 a galleon when the loop is completed, a brand new loop with no cars on it. I ask him if it would be wiser if the city would come up with plans to get people off the highways by mass transit (excuse me I am suppose to use the term intermodal).

I think our leaders (on every level) are going to have to start thinking about the implications of expensive gas and how to get people from their homes in the suburbs to their jobs in the cities.

buddy

azdroptop

Brad, there are as many of "us" in the minority as there are "you" in the supposed majority. Global warming is about money and money alone. It's all the rage in grant money for research. Did you read the recent article stating we are in a cooling period and will be for the next 10 years? In, fact, the temps have not been getting warmer for the last few years. Don't have the specifics in front of me right now. Remember in the 70's the cover of Time stating we are going into an ice age? Bottom line there is nothing humans can or can not do when it comes to our climate. Watch a volcano erupt and you'll see how insignificant our CO2 output is. Yes we should protect the envirment, but not over a hoax, and not at the expense of the US or any other economy.

Anyway, I love my bike and I'm sure you do to.

Richard_Rides

I have a Ford F350 Diesel I use in my business. I'm currently spending $250 a week for fuel. It doesn't run on iced tea and the high price of fuel in Greenland doesn't make me feel ashamed for complaining about the cost. I can't pass the cost on to my customers because the economic recession has made them extremely price conscious. In the Bush economy, there are no winners...

Ai52487963

I feel really good everytime I bike to the grocery store and pass the gas station.

RT

You can equate any liquid to a dollar equivalent, but the truth remains that gasoline is more valuable than pretty much anything other than milk and water. Water and milk are survival needs, and they have not seen price shock like we've seen in oil. It is silly to compare Scope and NyQuil to oil. It's like comparing apples to crowbars.

ILUVUK

I rode my bike to work for the first time this morning. Not even a 7-mile round trip commute. I left my Honda Civic parked on the street!

coppercook62

I heard the reason diesel fuel is so expensive is that China is stockpiling it for the Olympics becasue all there vehicles run on diesel. Don't know if this ifact base but I was told this.

FrankBattle 

Not everyone can bike to work.

*sigh*

It is what it is. Deal with it. Stop the moaning. I don't like the high prices, but many of those complaining piss and moan about high bike prices too. It (the complaining) isn't really about the prices. I suspect it's more about the principle.

woodduck

diesel is $1.80 l in Australia.

thats about $1.70USD given your poor performing $ at the moment.

so that would be 1 gallon = 3.8 l, so AUD$6.84 per gallon.

my turbo diesel X5 will do about 580-600 odd miles form 1 tank though.

How come the car is made in the USA but not sold there?

In Europe diesel was always less $$ than petrol. I had a diesel 1600cc mk2 golf in the early 90's that would do about 500 miles from 1 tank

shayel

Since gas prices here (Israel) are already at 6.70 NIS (roughly $2) a liter, or $7.50 a gallon, that means I should probably call and order a new Cérvelo any day now...

Mellowman

Europe prices are higher because the tax/duty on gas is much higher than in the US. Diesel is taxed less in Europe so that's why it's cheaper than petrol as well.

Pedaleur

This is foolish. Regardless of the cause of current climate change, humans could quite easily make changes to global climate (read some of the ideas to 'combat' global warming).

This is just stupid. So why have CO2 levels been steadily rising over the last century? More volcanoes than in the 1800's? Perhaps you're mixing up your anti-anti-global warming rhetoric and your anti-anti-CFC rhetoric?

PS. Gas is ~$9/gallon where I live. I just bought a car.

CALE262

The best way to control a populace is through Fear,..."Global Warming" is just fear mongering, High fuel prices keeps the poor, poor and dependant on the gov't/Corp's. KYOTO is also a farce and an attempt of the UN to become The global gov't... just IMHO kthnxbye.

drPD

Here in Europe (Slovenia): 8.43 $ / gallon

jupiter422

azdroptop has it exactly right. It's all about perpetuating grant money. If a global warming "researcher" finds that global warming is not man made, then there's no real reason to continue throwing grant money at him/her. However, if he finds that man is causing the end of the world as we know it, then we had better throw a ton of money at finding a "solution." There is a built-in bias in all government research which is why none of it can be trusted. One of the most fundamental requirements of research is a lack of bias or preconceived outcome.

Global Warming research is not about studying the data to find out what is happening. It is about trying to find data that support a preconceived conclusion based on political bias.

I ride my bike to work most days, and my car gets 30+ MPG, so I don't really care much about how much mogas costs because I only fill up 2 or 3 times per month. I do, however, burn up about 100-150 gallons of avgas every week, and at $7/gal, that is starting become a less insignificant part of my budget.

Pedaleur

You can make a heck of a lot more money as a global warming skeptic than a dime-a-dozen proponent.

Just sayin'.

Pedaleur

Waitaminute, waitaminute. I thought the global warming scare was to take money from the rich (US citizens) and give it to the poor (Chinese), not to take it from the poor and make them beg for it back.

Which paranoid conspiracy is it?

jupiter422

Yes, I suppose that is true, because the oil and gas companies will throw a ton of money at skeptics for research, but the problem is identical. Politically motivated entities are *******izing science to advance their particular agendas. However, I think it scores a little bit higher on the despicable meter for the US Government to partake in the practice.

The board at XOM represents their shareholders and have a fiduciary duty to maximize shareholder value. That means defending their future business against threats such as a false, politically-motivated finding that their product/operation is encumbered by a significant, unfounded liability.

Homebrew01

That goes for ALL bottled water, and requires billions of plastic (petroleum based) bottles to be manufactured & disposed of.

Just refill a bottle from the faucet !!

Pedaleur

To be fair, most peer-reviewed articles are limited to reasonable scientific claims, usually with statements (maybe vague) of uncertainties. It's really the popular media to blame for sensationalizing it. Polar bears. Sinking islands. Ravaging hurricanes.

On the other hand, there are lots of insurance companies, with more at stake than Exxon maybe, that have bought into the global warming fad. Maybe they're onto something.

Back on topic: My new car gets 13 km/l. I still bike everywhere.