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06-25-08 | 11:35 AM
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bannned
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When you're done with sensation, you can go ahead and flip it.
06-25-08 | 11:36 AM
#6
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When you've tired of doing it missionary.
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"Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey
"Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey
06-25-08 | 11:41 AM
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After it begins to sizzle. Or after about 3-4 minutes.
06-25-08 | 11:49 AM
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Bikes: Beach crusier, Specialized FSR mt., retro Raleigh rebuild. Trek Madone 4.5, Schwinn steel frame Frankinstein. BMX rebuild, Specialized rock hopper,
06-25-08 | 11:57 AM
#12
superArti
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From: Minnersoter
Bikes: 2007 Fuji Professional 2.0, 2009 GTw Avalanche 2.0
when all the bubbles on top of the batter have burst.
HOW do you know? well if you're me, you listen to the nuts on BF, flip it, and end up with neck pain for a week. [and then you know its time to flip it back]
HOW do you know? well if you're me, you listen to the nuts on BF, flip it, and end up with neck pain for a week. [and then you know its time to flip it back]
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i woke up one morning and i stepped out of bed | had to get a bike, had to paint it red
Of all the treasures I have, it’s the memories that are the most precious.
i woke up one morning and i stepped out of bed | had to get a bike, had to paint it red
Of all the treasures I have, it’s the memories that are the most precious.
06-25-08 | 12:12 PM
#13
Dumb@s$ Jarhead
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Si vis pacem, para bellum
Si vis pacem, para bellum
06-25-08 | 12:14 PM
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Bikes: Beach crusier, Specialized FSR mt., retro Raleigh rebuild. Trek Madone 4.5, Schwinn steel frame Frankinstein. BMX rebuild, Specialized rock hopper,
I was a major flip flopper. I've got a collection of stems to prove it. Finally I got a new bike and got fitted, end of story. My stem is flat now and makes a perfect chin rest.
06-25-08 | 12:16 PM
#15
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From: Minnersoter
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I was looking for that pic... could not dig it up tho. thanks for that!
06-25-08 | 12:29 PM
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superArti
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Duh, google is obviously the answer to everything.
/hijack
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i woke up one morning and i stepped out of bed | had to get a bike, had to paint it red
Of all the treasures I have, it’s the memories that are the most precious.
i woke up one morning and i stepped out of bed | had to get a bike, had to paint it red
Of all the treasures I have, it’s the memories that are the most precious.
Last edited by artifice; 06-25-08 at 12:47 PM. Reason: im not smrt
06-25-08 | 12:34 PM
#18
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'cept maybe for spelling.
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"Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey
"Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey
06-25-08 | 01:01 PM
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06-25-08 | 01:52 PM
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Don't fall prey to the pseudo-hardcore poser roadie BS. If you can ride comfortably with the stem slammed and it doesn't take away from your power or breathing, then do it.
Hurt your back one good time, and you'll ride it jacked up again. Hell, I ride 25mm of spacers with a 100 degree rise Thomson X4 stem. No change in position, other than higher hands and the back doesn't hurt a bit.
Hurt your back one good time, and you'll ride it jacked up again. Hell, I ride 25mm of spacers with a 100 degree rise Thomson X4 stem. No change in position, other than higher hands and the back doesn't hurt a bit.
06-25-08 | 01:59 PM
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Okay lot's of sarcasm of course and there is nothing better than getting properly fitted. However, it is possible for one to be properly fitted with a stem with some rise, and due to improvement in fitness and body changes, want to get a few centimeters lower. And that IS something you can try without the professional help of a fitter. (Often times, going lower can mean going to a shorter stem, so don't flip it, ride it and immediately say it doesn't work.) So, if you feel like you are properly fit on your bike and want to flip the stem to a flatter rise, go for it. You got nothing to lose.
06-25-08 | 02:22 PM
#23
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Okay lot's of sarcasm of course and there is nothing better than getting properly fitted. However, it is possible for one to be properly fitted with a stem with some rise, and due to improvement in fitness and body changes, want to get a few centimeters lower. And that IS something you can try without the professional help of a fitter. (Often times, going lower can mean going to a shorter stem, so don't flip it, ride it and immediately say it doesn't work.) So, if you feel like you are properly fit on your bike and want to flip the stem to a flatter rise, go for it. You got nothing to lose.
06-25-08 | 05:44 PM
#25
Who is Austin Dunbar?
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By removing spacers first, you are making things stiffer because you have less unsupported steerer tube between the stem and frame. It will make a noticable difference when sprinting or climbing out of the saddle. I have my stem set up on one bike with only1cm of spacers and a positive rise stem. It feels much stiffer than when I had 3cm of spacers and the stem flipped. The bars are in virtually the same position but have a better more hooked up feeling due to fewer spacers.