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Schlug 10-02-13 10:18 PM


Originally Posted by Rustle (Post 16127042)

Again, frame, hot. Hotter than hell. Wheels, hot.

Rotor Q-rings. not hot. :fpalm

DevinL 10-02-13 11:09 PM


Originally Posted by johnnytheboy (Post 16044027)
alright...i'll play. i couldn't wait until the sun set to take a picture, so please excuse the crappy lighting....i'll try again in a few hours. until then:
http://www.pedalroom.com/p/2013-cann...c-13243_13.jpg


Ugh! :twitchy:

Ghost Ryder 10-02-13 11:30 PM


Originally Posted by Rustle (Post 16127042)

Yummy!!!
Hot!

Raedyn 10-03-13 05:03 AM


Originally Posted by Rustle (Post 16127042)

Hot

primov8 10-03-13 05:18 AM


Originally Posted by Rustle (Post 16127042)

From a fellow De Rosa owner to another, very nice build as you don't see too many De Rosas to begin with. I'd prefer a 3T or Deda stem/seatpost, but still HOT ​the way it is.

SpeshulEd 10-03-13 08:52 AM

Alright Rustle, you have a pile of hot bikes. Time for a family photo.

johnnytheboy 10-03-13 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by DevinL (Post 16127126)
Ugh! :twitchy:

thanks!

the sci guy 10-03-13 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by Schlug (Post 16127013)
Are those Q rings? :( Rollers, not Rotors.

Frame, wheels, hot.


Originally Posted by Rustle (Post 16127035)
Rotor Q rings with Rotor 3D cranks.

can someone explain what this means. i don't speak uber bike. but i'm slowly learning.

Herbie53 10-03-13 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by the sci guy (Post 16130091)
can someone explain what this means. i don't speak uber bike. but i'm slowly learning.

http://www.rotorbikeusa.com/products.html

Schlug 10-03-13 09:03 PM

It wasn't intended to be uber speak. But it was intended to take a little p!ss out of him. :)

Rotor oblong chainrings are designed to take advantage of the 'stomp' down of your pedal stroke.

Instead of trying to pedal round and have a silky smooth, well-trained stroke round stroke, they do away with all that and give into the stomp, stomp, stomp nature of your strong quads vs. relatively weak hamstrings.

Riding rollers is the best way to get that nice smooth stroke on the pedals, because if you just stomp down you'll be all over those things, and riding off the side of your rollers is no fun. Not to mention the mark it leaves on the floor. No amount of hoovering will remove it. They've had oblong chainrings since the 80's IIRC. They usually fade away, but this mechanical shortcut from Rotor have caught on with a couple of pros. So who knows?

Everyone who spends a lot of time on rollers rides off the side once or twice. Usually when watching something and not paying attention. You can slowly drift to the side and before you know it, bam. But ****ey, square stroked stompers find rollers very difficult. And it does take effort and focus. The backs of your knees will never feel worse than riding rollers for 45 minutes after laying off them for a season.

There you have it: rollers. not Rotors.

Here's a video of the greatest cyclist of all time riding his rollers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BcHekNAfOo

and here, if you skip to 12:20. But watch the entire thing, it's brilliant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt5KX__G778

Otherwise that De Rosa (you just might see one in the above video if you're careful)

Herbie53 10-03-13 09:14 PM


Originally Posted by Schlug (Post 16130355)
..

Instead of trying to pedal round and have a silky smooth, well-trained stroke round stroke, they do away with all that and give into the stomp, stomp, stomp nature of your strong quads vs. relatively weak hamstrings.

This guy must be a very untrained stomper. He needs to ride rollers more.

http://mlu-s1-p.mlstatic.com/plato-o...7_082013-O.jpg

Schlug 10-03-13 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by Herbie53 (Post 16130378)
This guy must be a very untrained stomper. He needs to ride rollers more.

http://mlu-s1-p.mlstatic.com/plato-o...7_082013-O.jpg


Already covered that here:


Originally Posted by Schlug (Post 16130355)
They've had oblong chainrings since the 80's IIRC. They usually fade away, but this mechanical shortcut from Rotor have caught on with a couple of pros. So who knows?


PS, I'll see you your Sky photo and raise you:

http://bobbysands.smugmug.com/photos...-nq3x3qz-L.jpg

They have been around 100 years or so, since the chain drive began. Come back around about every 15 years. People have short memories.

Show me a photo of Joop Zoetemelk on oblong rings.

Anyway, enough claptrap, back to HOT R NOT?

Herbie53 10-03-13 09:56 PM

Biopace did the opposite of what Q-rings and the ones Froome uses.

SpeshulEd 10-03-13 10:24 PM


Originally Posted by Herbie53 (Post 16130458)
Biopace did the opposite of what Q-rings and the ones Froome uses.

This.

Actually, I see more and more pros riding q-rings. *shrug*

Schlug 10-04-13 01:50 AM


Originally Posted by Herbie53 (Post 16130458)
Biopace did the opposite of what Q-rings and the ones Froome uses.

You mean use an elliptical chainring to mechanically enhance a rider's pedal stroke?


#facepalm

If you want to be contrary for the sake of being contrary, that's perfect. But we're (more you're, really) derailing the Hot or Not thread for absolutely no good reason.

Herbie53 10-04-13 05:31 AM


Originally Posted by Schlug (Post 16130706)
You mean use an elliptical chainring to mechanically enhance a rider's pedal stroke?


#facepalm

If you want to be contrary for the sake of being contrary, that's perfect. But we're (more you're, really) derailing the Hot or Not thread for absolutely no good reason.

I'm just a sucker for know-it-alls that don't.

Ghost Ryder 10-04-13 05:40 AM


Originally Posted by Herbie53 (Post 16130864)
I'm just a sucker for know-it-alls that don't.

"Whatchu talkin bout Willis!?!" ;)
:thumb:
(Joke if its not completely obvious)

WhyFi 10-04-13 07:40 AM


Originally Posted by Schlug (Post 16130706)
But we're (more you're, really) derailing the Hot or Not thread for absolutely no good reason.

That's rich.

rkwaki 10-04-13 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by Herbie53 (Post 16130378)
This guy must be a very untrained stomper. He needs to ride rollers more.

http://mlu-s1-p.mlstatic.com/plato-o...7_082013-O.jpg

I ride Osymetrics.
Now I am going to correct something posted earlier. There is a difference between stomping on the pedals (not the way to pedal) and pedalling by pushing out and down which IS the correct way to pedal. Pedaling circles is not the correct pedal stroke.

SpeshulEd 10-04-13 08:16 AM

Stolen from another website, but I've seen this explanation a number of times...


  • The first difference between RotoR and Biopace is elliptical vs. asymetrical.
  • The second is the inherent purpose which, as previously stated, is that the Biopace chainrings placed the maximum tooth size at the dead spot while Q-Rings (RotoR) have the minimum tooth size at the dead spot. RotoR claims this is to increase your ability to get through the inefficient spot of your pedal stroke. Biopace is supposed to speed your way through the power portion (less teeth) and use 'stored' energy to power through the dead spot (more teeth)
  • Which leads to the third difference which is the adjustable nature of Q-rings (RotoR). Since my dead spot could be different from your dead spot (and would ideally be analyzed with some sort of spin scan) you can adjust where the minimum tooth size sits in relation to the crank arm.


Adrianinkc 10-04-13 08:42 AM

Love my Q-Rings, won't go back to round.

P.S I ride on rollers just fine.

the sci guy 10-04-13 09:26 AM

ok i get the oblong chainring thing, but what are rollers?

kcollier5 10-04-13 09:28 AM

Lets quit talking about rings. We've been derailled (see what I did there...:p) Where are some more hot bikes?!

IthaDan 10-04-13 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by the sci guy (Post 16131590)
ok i get the oblong chainring thing, but what are rollers?

Google, dude: know it, love it.

Ghost Ryder 10-04-13 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by the sci guy (Post 16131590)
ok i get the oblong chainring thing, but what are rollers?

http://circusmumdotcom.files.wordpre...ng-rollers.jpg

http://www.earthtimes.org/newsimage/...llers_6312.jpg


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