+1. And it's been set up for her....not us racer wannabees. :)

I forgot to mention, its setup to ride, & not pose all sexy. :thumb:
;)

Uh...What's wrong with cross brakes? Is it a silly, artificial aesthetic issue?

In case no one pointed it out, this is a silly aesthetic thread.

There's nothing wrong with cross brakes, on a cross bike or cross ride. But, they're not hot on a road racing bike. Nor is a stack of spacers, a stem flipped positive or platform pedals.

Not hot.

It would get lot's of love in the C&V community. But, within this thread, not hot.

Ah ha! So aesthetically they're "allowed," on gravel grinder/ cross bikes....

Is there an aesthetic codex defined for the purpose of this thread yet? :lol:

Hot...the only thing I'd nix is the T-Mobile branding...(Just noticed the platforms....eek!!!! lol)

They become sort of "novelty" really quick.
I used them for all of 1 week/3 days before I was comfortable enough with the brifters when I was a noob coming off a MTB.
:lol:
They're there for a sense of confidence, when commuting,or in traffic.
I installed a pair for my uncle whos coiming off a hybrid, its more familiar feeling.

I think it was you who recommended them to me for a more heads up position in city traffic...a worthy consideration.

It a team livery/team edition. Same as my Major Jake CXer.
(No cross lever/interuptors)

Probably was me, once you get used to the brifters, you learn to love the hoods. ;)
Some love the cross brakes, for me they don't get much love on my bikes :lol:
They're great when I take my CXer to the trails, & it gets really twisty, tight, & technical.
Some people have a hard time dialing them in to get the right modulation, I can tune them to be as powerful as my brifters.
Thats where my MTB skills come it handy. ;)

The Rules were just linked to a page or two ago: http://www.velominati.com/the-rules/

Basically extract the equipment specific from the above and you have a good starting point.

I'm plenty used to the hoods, but I much prefer the drops as far as braking authority goes. I just don't feel I can grab nearly as much stopping power as easily and accurately- it's not a straight pull.....I'm wondering if I can achieve the same braking authority, as in the drops, with cross brakes for the heads up position required when traversing traffic...

That's a funny site...thanks for the link Big'

the super6 comes with a slammed dust cover under that huge dome one. Pop it off and look. I threw mine away the first night of ownership

I hope that this is tongue in cheek and not to suggest that that blog post has anything to do with this thread.

As tongue in cheek as that site may or may not be, it's extremely apropos to this thread.

Not terribly. "The Rules," often referred to in this thread (which predates the Velominati blog post), is a tongue-in-cheek reference to staging guidelines/rules of thumb that were hashed out over time - what gear combo, alignment of the crank arms, alignment of the valve stem, white garage door backdrop, etc. The HrN Rules can actually be useful for staging, but more often than not, invoking a violation of The Rules was simply a way to take the piss out of someone in good fun. IOW, if you don't like inline levers on some dude's wife's bike... just say it, but don't take the weak way out and say that it's a 'Not' simply because it breaks some rules that have no bearing here.

For myself, I think it's a pretty hot bike.

No need to become insulting. I didn't quote the Velominati rules as my reason. I simply offered them up to Unfiltereddregs when he enquired.

It seems to me I did offer a bit of a reasoned decission here:
And, while perhaps not formalized in any codex, there is certainly a set of standards, with regard to components, that have emerged from not just this thread but many similliar threads around the net that goes something like:

Slammed stem=Hotter A spacer or uncut steerer tube= Neutral Stack of Spacers=Notter
Stem longer than stock for frame size=Hotter Standard Length=Neutral Stem Shorter than standard=Notter
La Sur Plaque=Hotter Compact cranks=Neutral Triples=Notter
Recognized road pedals= Neutral All others(spd, mtb, platforms, clips & straps accept on period correct C&V) = Notter
Saddle thin and dead level= Hotter Obviously well padded, Brooks or other but still level=Neutral Obviously tilted to accommodate poor fit = Notter
Careful use of color coordination = Hotter Black tape, saddle and tires = Neutral Lack of coordination or mismatching = Notter
Classic deep drops, level & levers even w/ drops = Hotter Compacts w/flat surface from tops to hoods = Neutral Anything with hoods tilted upwards = Notter
And on, and on.

You can often see a bike get by with a demerit here or there. But, not when they start adding up as they do in this case.

There are plenty of examples of reasonable priced bikes with carefully selected parts and assembly that merit a Hot. There are also plenty of examples of very expensive bikes with top end components that deserve a Not. In this case I believe the bike in question is one of the later.

I suspect bikes like this get the number of Hot votes that they do, because a number of thread followers relate to the bike as it shares some simillarities to their own or what they would own and they desire for that to somehow represent "Hot". Even when it's Not.

If you found that insulting, I'd suggest putting on big boy pants - none was intended.

Uh, when read in context (the three/four posts between you and Unfiltered), you actually did imply that very thing.

i know this all too well

I find it easier to dial in cantis, over discs. I can lock up the cantis with the cross brakes, but find it a bit squishy with discs.
I dont bother with cross brakes on my CXer with discs, grabbing the brakes from the hoods is just as strong for me.

Less discussion about "Cross" brakes, more photos of "Hot" or "Not" bikes.

http://i.imgur.com/PkrPpFk.jpg
Its older than me by 9 years... But I'll see what you guys have to say about it.

yes.


also...sweet hammer.