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m3ta1head 04-29-15 09:33 PM


Originally Posted by TenSpeedV2 (Post 17762688)
http://i.imgur.com/Sv9qIeS.png

I don't have a white garage door to park it in front of, so a white wall will have to do.

Not even close, such a mishmash of odd equipment choice. The frame has a lot of potential but your build isn't doing it any justice at all.

k_kibbler 04-29-15 09:48 PM

Evo is really hot! :thumb:

TenSpeedV2 04-29-15 09:58 PM


Originally Posted by m3ta1head (Post 17763724)
Not even close, such a mishmash of odd equipment choice. The frame has a lot of potential but your build isn't doing it any justice at all.

Just about everything on there was removed from another bike that I had. What is odd about the equipment choice? FSA carbon cranks? Ritchey WCS Axis 4 stem? FSA headset? American Classic 420 track wheels (front is in the shop for repair currently), Specialized Phenom saddle.....it all goes together, at least I feel like it does. And it rides like a dream!!!!

ravenmore 05-01-15 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by TenSpeedV2 (Post 17762688)
http://i.imgur.com/Sv9qIeS.png

I don't have a white garage door to park it in front of, so a white wall will have to do.

Sorry but have to go ‘not’ here. The red rear wheel is jarring. The front wheel is a good color scheme for the bike but just doesn’t work with the huge rim depth. Not a fan of the stem up look. Also not a fan of the bottle cage and bottle.

RJM 05-01-15 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by TenSpeedV2 (Post 17762688)
http://i.imgur.com/Sv9qIeS.png

I don't have a white garage door to park it in front of, so a white wall will have to do.

Not hot. That front wheel kills it...back wheel kills it too.

dtrain 05-01-15 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by TenSpeedV2 (Post 17763765)
Just about everything on there was removed from another bike that I had. What is odd about the equipment choice? FSA carbon cranks? Ritchey WCS Axis 4 stem? FSA headset? American Classic 420 track wheels (front is in the shop for repair currently), Specialized Phenom saddle.....it all goes together, at least I feel like it does. And it rides like a dream!!!!

Maybe try again when your front wheel is fixed and replaced on the bike. Ditching the rear light, bottle, and cage would 'look' better for staging...but I think that's a little silly.

redlude97 05-01-15 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by TenSpeedV2 (Post 17763765)
Just about everything on there was removed from another bike that I had. What is odd about the equipment choice? FSA carbon cranks? Ritchey WCS Axis 4 stem? FSA headset? American Classic 420 track wheels (front is in the shop for repair currently), Specialized Phenom saddle.....it all goes together, at least I feel like it does. And it rides like a dream!!!!

red stem black seatpost, everything is too matchy matchy like you are trying too hard. SPD pedals on a track bike, flipped up stem etc. Never going to be a hot

r8dr_rider 05-01-15 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by fa63 (Post 17756464)
Nice first bike. But for this thread, at least pull the dork disc off the rear wheel before posting a picture, would you? That automatically makes it not.

:D

And reflectors on wheels. Leave that on your kids bike

TenSpeedV2 05-02-15 12:11 PM

I can see that I got raked over the coals here. Not a problem honestly. I should do some explaining as to how this came to be and what it is used for. Previous bike was stripped to make this one happen as there was a frame issue with the other bike. Wheels and carbon cranks along with the BB were OEM items from that bike. No way I am going to sell them, especially not the wheels since they are one of a kind from American Classic. This was confirmed with American Classic by my buddy who manages the LBS that I frequent. Most people start with the frame, and add everything else. I went the exact opposite way, and had everything else and added the frame. The frame was picked up on Craigslist for what I feel was a steal. Since it was a frame that I wanted, was hard to find, and was a perfect fit, I jumped on it. The bike is aggressive yet fairly comfortable.

1. The frame has no mounts for a bottle cage at all. My only options are bar mount, seat mount like I have, or go without. I often do longer rides, like the 48 mile ride last night with a group. No water on a ride like that is just not an option.
2. Stem has rise because I have a super long torso at 6'0" and a 30" inseam. I am all upper body. I slam that stem, and I might as well be riding a full on low pursuit frame.
3. Front wheel is for fun rides and is not used on a daily basis. Matching front wheel is in the shop waiting on parts from American Classic.
4. SPD pedals for daily riding as I do not like straps or cages and since it is a fixed gear, it needs foot retention of some sort.

This is what it would look like as a daily ridden bike with the matching wheels, pardon the lack of proper staging as this was taken on a normal ride:

http://i.imgur.com/BQKSm5o.jpg

Now, I am not making excuses or trying to justify my choices for the bike. I commute to work on both of my fixed gear bikes, and one is fairly plain, this one is a little on the expressive side. It does match, almost too much, but you know, when you get compliments on it from everyone from pedestrians to passengers in cars and cyclists as well, you just go with it. I love the bike, everything about it. The ride is phenomenal and the fit is spot on. It puts a huge smile on my face when I ride it and when it comes down to it, that is all that really matters.

kbarch 05-03-15 03:58 AM


Originally Posted by TenSpeedV2 (Post 17771195)
I can see that I got raked over the coals here. Not a problem honestly. I should do some explaining as to how this came to be and what it is used for. Previous bike was stripped to make this one happen as there was a frame issue with the other bike. Wheels and carbon cranks along with the BB were OEM items from that bike. No way I am going to sell them, especially not the wheels since they are one of a kind from American Classic. This was confirmed with American Classic by my buddy who manages the LBS that I frequent. Most people start with the frame, and add everything else. I went the exact opposite way, and had everything else and added the frame. The frame was picked up on Craigslist for what I feel was a steal. Since it was a frame that I wanted, was hard to find, and was a perfect fit, I jumped on it. The bike is aggressive yet fairly comfortable.

1. The frame has no mounts for a bottle cage at all. My only options are bar mount, seat mount like I have, or go without. I often do longer rides, like the 48 mile ride last night with a group. No water on a ride like that is just not an option.
2. Stem has rise because I have a super long torso at 6'0" and a 30" inseam. I am all upper body. I slam that stem, and I might as well be riding a full on low pursuit frame.
3. Front wheel is for fun rides and is not used on a daily basis. Matching front wheel is in the shop waiting on parts from American Classic.
4. SPD pedals for daily riding as I do not like straps or cages and since it is a fixed gear, it needs foot retention of some sort.

This is what it would look like as a daily ridden bike with the matching wheels, pardon the lack of proper staging as this was taken on a normal ride:

http://i.imgur.com/BQKSm5o.jpg

Now, I am not making excuses or trying to justify my choices for the bike. I commute to work on both of my fixed gear bikes, and one is fairly plain, this one is a little on the expressive side. It does match, almost too much, but you know, when you get compliments on it from everyone from pedestrians to passengers in cars and cyclists as well, you just go with it. I love the bike, everything about it. The ride is phenomenal and the fit is spot on. It puts a huge smile on my face when I ride it and when it comes down to it, that is all that really matters.

You know, red and black is overdone, and your setup is highly idiosyncratic. Explanations are unnecessary and rather meaningless when judgments are based on an ideal. It's no surprise that, out in the wild (as opposed to the lab here), you'd get lots of compliments, and I think your bike is pretty hot, too, but in an altbike kind of way. ;)

Fiery 05-03-15 04:55 AM

I don't understand why you insist on posting a fixed gear urban bike in a highly judgmental thread on the road cycling subform. Don't you think it would fare better on this thread, if you are looking for approval?

BTW, how does long torso equate to short, tall stem? It is typically the opposite, you would have a low saddle to account for the short inseam, a long stem to account for the long torso and not a lot of spacers to account for the low saddle.

TenSpeedV2 05-03-15 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by Fiery (Post 17772438)
I don't understand why you insist on posting a fixed gear urban bike in a highly judgmental thread on the road cycling subform. Don't you think it would fare better on this thread, if you are looking for approval?

BTW, how does long torso equate to short, tall stem? It is typically the opposite, you would have a low saddle to account for the short inseam, a long stem to account for the long torso and not a lot of spacers to account for the low saddle.

I am not looking for approval. I think it looks hot so I posted it here. I know that not everyone will like it, but for the few that do, it is for them to enjoy along with myself. Oh, and I posted it there already. :D

ravenmore 05-06-15 08:24 PM

Probably about to get grilled in my own thread but I haven't posted a bike here in a loooooong time. Just picked this up today. Forgive the fredly amount of spacers as I'm still working on the fit, although even with them it has a healthy saddle to bar drop.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...psnvovv0hd.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...pssjwzlhad.jpg

redlude97 05-06-15 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by ravenmore (Post 17783305)
Probably about to get grilled in my own thread but I haven't posted a bike here in a loooooong time. Just picked this up today. Forgive the fredly amount of spacers as I'm still working on the fit, although even with them it has a healthy saddle to bar drop.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...psnvovv0hd.jpg

the blue tape and silver cables are awful.The FD/RD should be black also

ravenmore 05-06-15 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by redlude97 (Post 17783314)
the blue tape and silver cables are awful.The FD/RD should be black also

Eh, I'm a bit of a Cowboys fan so I don't think it's so bad. ;)

r8dr_rider 05-06-15 09:31 PM


Originally Posted by ravenmo783428
Eh, I'm a bit of a Cowboys fan so I don't think it's so bad. ;)

Cowboys fan? Definitely a not!

ravenmore 05-06-15 09:37 PM


Originally Posted by r8dr_rider (Post 17783438)
Cowboys fan? Definitely a not!

Now I'm definitely going to get grilled in my own thread. :D

carlcurry 05-09-15 04:31 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Back To The Beginning
Of this thread I mean. I think mine is a year older than the TCR in that first post.
No action on this thread for a bit, decided to provide an offering.
Thought I'd memorialize a vintage TCR before it is eventually retired. I started cannibalizing recently for my latest build - thought I was retiring it, but on close inspection by myself and the shop it is still structurally sound and no reason not to ride it. Never been crashed.
So replaced the pillaged parts and now it's now gonna be mostly a commute bike. It was pretty leading edge back in the day, but lacks the front end stability of the new generation. It does, however, have something I covet - a threaded bottom bracket. Geez I miss those.

Juise 05-09-15 08:35 PM

Pedal Force RS-2 Frameset

My first bike build, still needs to be fitted. I've put 50 miles on it in the last two weeks and it feels pretty comfortable. I'm 5' 9" 265# so there wont be much of a drop anyways.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-D...506_140651.jpg

GuyDebord 05-09-15 09:36 PM


Originally Posted by Juise (Post 17791636)
Pedal Force RS-2 Frameset

My first bike build, still needs to be fitted. I've put 50 miles on it in the last two weeks and it feels pretty comfortable. I'm 5' 9" 265# so there wont be much of a drop anyways.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-D...506_140651.jpg

Not. This one looks like a nice black Pony. Your saddle to bar negative drop makes me wonder if your frame fits or if you would be better of using a cruiser, for such ratio you should be using a seat like this selle royale, Im sure your back angle would be like 60 degrees at most. I like the frame though...

ravenmore 05-09-15 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by Juise (Post 17791636)
Pedal Force RS-2 Frameset

My first bike build, still needs to be fitted. I've put 50 miles on it in the last two weeks and it feels pretty comfortable. I'm 5' 9" 265# so there wont be much of a drop anyways.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-D...506_140651.jpg

Man I wanted one of these frames soooo bad. :)

khuon 05-09-15 11:20 PM


Originally Posted by Juise (Post 17791636)
Pedal Force RS-2 Frameset

My first bike build, still needs to be fitted. I've put 50 miles on it in the last two weeks and it feels pretty comfortable. I'm 5' 9" 265# so there wont be much of a drop anyways.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-D...506_140651.jpg

The rise on that stem and the angle of the drops detract a bit from the looks but if it fits and works for you then it is what it is. However, that loop on the rear derailleur cable seems excessive. Also, hopefully you're not riding around in such a cross-chained combo all the time.

BigJeff 05-10-15 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by Juise (Post 17791636)
Pedal Force RS-2 Frameset

My first bike build, still needs to be fitted. I've put 50 miles on it in the last two weeks and it feels pretty comfortable. I'm 5' 9" 265# so there wont be much of a drop anyways.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-D...506_140651.jpg

Awesome components/ build; there may seem to be excessive rd cable length, but I think SRAM says 36cm is correct, which looks like a lot on some frames.

Saddle position will change a bunch as you become accustomed to a better fit.

Bar at height is defined by flexibility and not kneeing your stomache... This will change

however..... What is on your front Valve stem?!?!?!?!?!?

Juise 05-10-15 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by khuon (Post 17791879)
The rise on that stem and the angle of the drops detract a bit from the looks but if it fits and works for you then it is what it is. However, that loop on the rear derailleur cable seems excessive. Also, hopefully you're not riding around in such a cross-chained combo all the time.

I had just finished sizing the chain when I took that picture, that's the reason for the extreme cross chain gearing. The loop seems excessive but everything from Sram says it needs to be longer then what most are used to. I even watched some videos from Sram and all the bikes setup by them using Red or Force groups have long RD cabling.


Originally Posted by GuyDebord (Post 17791748)
Not. This one looks like a nice black Pony. Your saddle to bar negative drop makes me wonder if your frame fits or if you would be better of using a cruiser, for such ratio you should be using a seat like this selle royale, Im sure your back angle would be like 60 degrees at most. I like the frame though...

Not sure if the suggestion of a woman's cruiser seat is sarcasm, an honest joke, or a serious suggestion? The current fit is set for being comfortable using the lowest point on the bars. I'm not a typical sized rider (never will be). I primarily strength train, and started biking to cut some weight. I bench 400#, 90# dumbbell preacher curl, 1300# leg press, 52" chest, 18.5" arms, and an 40" gut! The goal is to get back to a 30"-32" waist, I'll never be under 225 as long as I can continue to train, so my bike setups will always reflect that. I suspect I'll have more of a drop when I hit my goal waist size.


Originally Posted by ravenmore (Post 17791770)
Man I wanted one of these frames soooo bad. :)

I got a damn good deal on it! It's the only carbon I've ever ridden so I can't speak to how good or bad it may be, but I like it.


Originally Posted by BigJeff (Post 17792392)
Awesome components/ build; there may seem to be excessive rd cable length, but I think SRAM says 36cm is correct, which looks like a lot on some frames.

Saddle position will change a bunch as you become accustomed to a better fit.

Bar at height is defined by flexibility and not kneeing your stomache... This will change

however..... What is on your front Valve stem?!?!?!?!?!?

Thanks,

We seem to be very much on the same pages, with a handle like BigJeff I suspect you understand where I coming from.

Hah, that's my Presta to Schraeder valve adapter, I somehow ended up with a gold one.

redlude97 05-10-15 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by Marvelousmarkie (Post 17792673)
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=450432I am getting ready to take a trip which will include riding in the mountains, so I decided to equip my lightest bike for climbing. At the moment, that's my 2005/2006 old team bike (carbons used since then have been sold off). In any case, is the newly installed compact crank too dark and does it clash too much with the old Dura Ace stuff?

(Further disclaimers: I am old and I have short arms, so I don't care what anyone says about the stem spacers. The tire logos are deliberately placed opposite the valve stems to irritate weenies).

I understand having a lighter bike helps with climbing, but shaving weight by removing the pedals may have been excessive :thumb:


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