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Originally Posted by Murrays
(Post 7284526)
Forgot to mention that I hate being surprised by cars coming by me; I'd much rather know that they are there before they pass.
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I don't use the noise maker. I really want to hear the car that kills me, as opposed to listening to hippity-hop. Also, I love the swoosh sounds bikes make when they pass you.
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I tried a couple times. Seemed more of a hassle to me. When I ride, I enjoy the peace and quiet. The last I want when trying to get a good workout, is more junk strapped to body (like an HRM, what a pain that was).
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I'll ride with my iPod and SHURE E3Cs (which are isolating) pretty much all the time. The only exception to this is riding at night on country roads, because they have little, if any lighting. Really, if the car is gonna hit you, its gonna hit you regardless of whether you can hear it or not. If you use sound as an indication of approaching cars, then that's just silly: its far safer and more reliable to shoulder check every minute or so.
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I hate passing riders who have an Ipod. They can't hear me coming and weave into my path. If they don't do that then they can't hear my greeting.
If you're going to wear an ipod, pay attention to traffic. Please don't bring them to a group ride. I've tried riding with music and hated it. It cut back significantly on my ability to hear traffic, to an extent that I felt was dangerous. I'm one of those people who can hear traffic behind me. That's saved me from getting hit a number of times. |
Bringing one to a group ride is just stupid, as the whole point of those rides is social. Also, people that don't ride right, pass left deserve a pump in the spokes.
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When I started riding to work, I did listen to music for a while, then started riding with just one in the ear - found it confusing to listen to traffic/warnings in one ear and listening to music in the other. After riding on the MS Bike ride that states you are not to listen to an IPod while riding, I quit doing it and haven't looked back sense.
Can you hear a car coming up - perhaps not on some cars, some you can. When I ride the bike trails, I HATE PEOPLE listening to their IPods - do they hear me when I announce "On your left"? Sometimes yes, sometimes I don't know - still announce myself, but sometimes it's tempting to just blow by them - but that would be rude and I don't want to get Peds/Joggers ticked off anymore on bicycles. What I don't understand is WHY does everyone have to be entertained ALL the time? Everyone has an IPod going with whatever they are doing. People texting/talking to their friend while walking/driving. Kids watching DVD's while Mommy is going to the store. TV's everywhere while eating/shopping. Society has gotten to the point that we are expecting to be entertained every waking second. |
I even recently "participated" in a conference call using my iPhone for about an hour. It was one of those situations in which I didn't have to interact...just listen. (It was also incredibly boring.) In general, I sometimes ride while listening to an iPod/iPhone/whatever. However, I only turn up the music to the point at which I can rub my fingers together in front of my face an still hear the sound of them rubbing together over the music. Much louder than that and I feel like I'm missing out on the sound around me.
My other thought, however; has often been. Am I really agile enough and is my hearing so incredibly astute that hearing a car as it barrels down on me makes any difference in my likely survival? I really doubt it. |
Originally Posted by ericm979
(Post 7284887)
I hate passing riders who have an Ipod. They can't hear me coming and weave into my path.
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Then the answer is to stop riding on MUPs.
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Originally Posted by kergin
(Post 7284970)
Then the answer is to stop riding on MUPs.
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Originally Posted by Murrays
(Post 7284459)
Gotta call BS on this one. I can definitely hear most cars behind me and I DO move closer to the edge of the road since I tend to drift to the middle of the lane on occasion.
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I listen to pre recorded car noises so I can keep right.
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Every time I'm on the bike, I'm listening to my iPod. It's the first thing I wear. Second is my helmet.
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Only when outside of town and riding solo.
I don't move over when I hear a car coming since I am always as far over as possible anyway, nor do I look behind me. So what good does hearing do me? If a car is going to hit me from behind, its going to happen anyway whether I hear it coming or not. |
I don't listen to an ipod. I don't like the idea of cutting off my sense of sound. Hearing the cars coming is fairly important in a number of areas on my normal routes, when having to move across lanes to make a left, for instance. More importantly, I can hear where other cyclists are, which I'm convinced that people listening to earbuds cannot.
Beyond this, I get enough music driving to and from work, and really enjoy hearing the wind and the sounds that come with pedaling and shifting. |
Originally Posted by yogi13
(Post 7285378)
I don't like the idea of cutting off my sense of sound. Hearing the cars coming is fairly important in a number of areas on my normal routes, when having to move across lanes to make a left, for instance.
First, your assuming adding music eliminates all other sound. Wrong, this makes most of your argument mute and pointless. Then you say you need to hear when you change lanes left. Turn your head and LOOK. I cant believe you use your hearing to change lanes, talk about dangerous. |
I've only been coming to BF for a couple months, but this is a recurring thread... do you guys ever think that this is just someone being a troll... wanting to stir the pot just to watch the arguement?
The bottom-line is that it is dangerous in some circumstances... others it's not... if someone gets taken out because they did something stupid... then the gene-pool is a little cleaner! :twitchy: :D :twitchy: :D :twitchy: :D :twitchy: |
Originally Posted by Jarery
(Post 7285113)
You should learn how to ride a bike properly on roads. You shouldnt be changing your line everytime you hear a car.
The point is that I'm extra careful to hug the side of the road when I hear a car. -murray |
Ipod=Ichabod.
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Originally Posted by TexasBubba
(Post 7285768)
I've only been coming to BF for a couple months, but this is a recurring thread... do you guys ever think that this is just someone being a troll... wanting to stir the pot just to watch the arguement?
The bottom-line is that it is dangerous in some circumstances... others it's not... if someone gets taken out because they did something stupid... then the gene-pool is a little cleaner! :twitchy: :D :twitchy: :D :twitchy: :D :twitchy: As I ride listening to my ipod, in my superman costume, not acknowledging waves or nodes, passing too closely people who can't ride their bikes, without announcing myself on a MUP, going more then 5 miles an hour, I always wonder how would other BF members feel about this. Oh I also like to take candy from little kids. |
Originally Posted by Richard_Rides
(Post 7283866)
The notion that you can hear a car bearing down on you from behind and take some evasive action to "save your life" is the height of absurdity. People perpetuate that story, not because it's true, but because it gives them a much needed opportunity to feel superior to others by chastising them for their "recklessness".
I can hear cars exactly the same with one ear in as without, but I've still not heard a reasonable description of the sound a car that is going to hit is going to make. If you are really that concerned about getting hit from behind, go party with the mirror fanboys. |
Originally Posted by uke
(Post 7285153)
Every time I'm on the bike, I'm listening to my iPod. It's the first thing I wear. Second is my helmet.
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I do in traffic, but I keep it very light, I don't attempt to block out sounds, especially sounds that could save my tail.
I do it mainly so I can hear my phone ring and can pull off the road and just talk on the headset instead of digging the phone out of the bag. |
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