Happy for Tyler?
09-01-08, 03:30 PM
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Happy for Tyler?
I know he cheated and lied and waged a huge PR campaign to avoid the stain of doping, but I still was happy to see Tyler Hamilton take the US Pro Road Championship. He's a helluva gusty guy and a brilliant cyclist, and I think he deserves at least one last shot of glory before he ends his career.
Am I alone here, or does everyone else feel he has no business in the national champion's jersey?
Am I alone here, or does everyone else feel he has no business in the national champion's jersey?
09-01-08, 03:38 PM
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I am happy to see him do well. He paid the price, let him race, and he wins all the better.
09-01-08, 03:41 PM
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I know he cheated and lied and waged a huge PR campaign to avoid the stain of doping, but I still was happy to see Tyler Hamilton take the US Pro Road Championship. He's a helluva gusty guy and a brilliant cyclist, and I think he deserves at least one last shot of glory before he ends his career.
Am I alone here, or does everyone else feel he has no business in the national champion's jersey?
Am I alone here, or does everyone else feel he has no business in the national champion's jersey?
09-01-08, 03:46 PM
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I know he cheated and lied and waged a huge PR campaign to avoid the stain of doping, but I still was happy to see Tyler Hamilton take the US Pro Road Championship. He's a helluva gusty guy and a brilliant cyclist, and I think he deserves at least one last shot of glory before he ends his career.
Am I alone here, or does everyone else feel he has no business in the national champion's jersey?
Am I alone here, or does everyone else feel he has no business in the national champion's jersey?
i concur.
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good for Tyler and good for Millar....all the power to them....I hope they both win a lot more as well.
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I'd find it hard to believe that much of the pro peleton didn't do some kind of doping over the past however many decades. Some level of cheating was tolerated for so long. That just doesn't disappear overnight.
If you're guilty & caught, admitting it will most likely help you move on. It's the people that deny doping after positive tests, guilty or not, who have a pall cast over them. Fair or not, that seems to be the way it is.
If Tyler is racing clean now, great.
If you're guilty & caught, admitting it will most likely help you move on. It's the people that deny doping after positive tests, guilty or not, who have a pall cast over them. Fair or not, that seems to be the way it is.
If Tyler is racing clean now, great.
09-01-08, 04:09 PM
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I'm in it for a good race. I really don't care how they pull off said good race.
And no, I don't think the national champion's jersey represents me as a cyclist.
09-01-08, 04:12 PM
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Always a Tyler fan. Everyone in your life will disappoint eventually, so you gotta look at the big picture.
Congrats Tyler, and go Buffs!
Congrats Tyler, and go Buffs!
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I know he cheated and lied and waged a huge PR campaign to avoid the stain of doping, but I still was happy to see Tyler Hamilton take the US Pro Road Championship. He's a helluva gusty guy and a brilliant cyclist, and I think he deserves at least one last shot of glory before he ends his career.
Am I alone here, or does everyone else feel he has no business in the national champion's jersey?
Am I alone here, or does everyone else feel he has no business in the national champion's jersey?
09-01-08, 04:17 PM
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Tyler could have just as easily slipped into obscurity and disappeared/retired. Instead, he chose to train right, stay clean, and make a comeback. Good for him, good for Rock Racing, and good for the sport.
Anyone who can hold the record time up Mount Washington for any amount of time can only help the level of competition. .02
Anyone who can hold the record time up Mount Washington for any amount of time can only help the level of competition. .02
09-01-08, 04:18 PM
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Fellow New Englander...
Former ski racer...
One tough bike racer...
Probable doper...
Still a fan...
Good for him...
Former ski racer...
One tough bike racer...
Probable doper...
Still a fan...
Good for him...
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He has had to sit out what should have been the prime of his career, so in my opinion he has more than paid for what he in all likelihood did. Go Tyler!
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I find it hard to believe Millar and Hamilton were in the minority. With Puerto and all the people getting busted those days, I'd wager 80% + of the peloton doped at some point in the year. I would also go as far to say some teams mandated doping. The ones caught were just scapegoats.
So yeah, I'm happy for him.
So yeah, I'm happy for him.
09-01-08, 04:43 PM
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I don't care how much dope he took. Anybody that can ride most to the TdF with a broken collarbone is a total animal even if doped to the gills and I will always salute him for that.
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Someone said it in another thread and I'll reiterate it here...and add some stuff...
Dope doesn't make a donkey into a racehorse.
Dope doesn't make you so hard that you race with a broken collarbone and are forced to get caps to replace the teeth that you ground down from the pain.
I agree that he SHOULD have stepped up and admitted that he doped, but he served his suspension and has come back. S T F U and leave the guy alone to race!
I'm glad he won.
Dope doesn't make a donkey into a racehorse.
Dope doesn't make you so hard that you race with a broken collarbone and are forced to get caps to replace the teeth that you ground down from the pain.
I agree that he SHOULD have stepped up and admitted that he doped, but he served his suspension and has come back. S T F U and leave the guy alone to race!
I'm glad he won.
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Hey haters, he rides one of my local rides in the off season I believe.
If you can send me your names and phone numbers I would be more than happy to pass your negative comments and information along to him so you can discuss your feelings with him face to face.
If you can send me your names and phone numbers I would be more than happy to pass your negative comments and information along to him so you can discuss your feelings with him face to face.
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. . . . . . . . and a couple of points for Rock Racing for giving him the chance.
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