When climbing is it OK to get off and walk?
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If you have to walk, you have to walk. It might be easier to take a rest but if your gearing simply isn't low enough then you don't have a choice.
In my limited experience, make absolutely sure your seatpost is at the ideal height and do hill repeats and you'll be much better prepared.
In my limited experience, make absolutely sure your seatpost is at the ideal height and do hill repeats and you'll be much better prepared.
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That's funny. I've got 2 girls under 3. Handfuls. That's why I love to ride now. Gets me out of the house and out of kid duty. I'm probably way too slow for you anyway. Hey you're talking about the hill that goes up to the 73 right by the shopping center and crystal cove right? I remember that now. I'm so there. How's the traffic
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If your'e training to race, then yeah! If you're just doing a fun ride, then walk if you can't crank it anymore.
Then again, at 5.5% grade, you shouldn't need to. Heck, use it as a litmus test of your fitness; if you can't climb it, then you have more work to do!
Then again, at 5.5% grade, you shouldn't need to. Heck, use it as a litmus test of your fitness; if you can't climb it, then you have more work to do!
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I don't really understand the point of this. OK to walk? If you can ride it, ride. If you stall and fall over then perhaps you should consider walking the rest of the way.
First time I did one particular hilly century route of mine, I got surprised by a few steep grade short hills that I had neither the momentum nor the gear required to overcome. I did not do a repeat. I got off walked it up and rode on.
Only time I remember walking (for reasons other than mechanical failure). I don't care if it's OK or not that I did that.
First time I did one particular hilly century route of mine, I got surprised by a few steep grade short hills that I had neither the momentum nor the gear required to overcome. I did not do a repeat. I got off walked it up and rode on.
Only time I remember walking (for reasons other than mechanical failure). I don't care if it's OK or not that I did that.
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THOU SHALT NOT WALK!!!!!!11111111111
Just kidding...do what you need to get to the top...it really doesn't matter. Personally, I rarely walk because I have a very difficult time getting going again.
Just kidding...do what you need to get to the top...it really doesn't matter. Personally, I rarely walk because I have a very difficult time getting going again.
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the worst part of walking on a climb is trying to get up enough energy and forward motion to start riding again
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For some of us, (me included... flame away...) there is always that hill that makes us start seeing fireballs. At that point it's dangerous to continue. Stop, get off the bike, wait 1-2 minutes and then get back on and ride easily in your lowest gear. There hasn't been a hill that I couldn't counquer using this method. Very often when I ride the hill again, I know what I'm in for and can pace myself better and either make it much farther up or even to the top. Don't give up. 75% of hill climbing is confidence.
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Apparently it is perfectly ok for the pros to do it on the Koppenberg:
https://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=nmkC2FynBkU
https://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=nmkC2FynBkU
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Speedplays get a bad rap. The X-series have a reputation for getting fouled easily due to the spring design. The Zeros work much better. If they are filled with mud they won't engage, obviously, but it only takes a few seconds to clean, unlike the X's which have gaps that are difficult to clean out.
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Speedplays get a bad rap. The X-series have a reputation for getting fouled easily due to the spring design. The Zeros work much better. If they are filled with mud they won't engage, obviously, but it only takes a few seconds to clean, unlike the X's which have gaps that are difficult to clean out.
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Don't let some dude who couldn't climb a hill...or any hill for that matter, get you all psyched out before you have even tried riding it. If you get your heart rate in a tizzy before you even begin, you're gonna have a bad day. Hills are just something you gotta climb to get anywhere worth going...deal with em as they come in whatever way you can, but don't let them get your panties in a bunch beforehand.
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Apparently it is perfectly ok for the pros to do it on the Koppenberg:
https://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=nmkC2FynBkU
https://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=nmkC2FynBkU
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There's no way of knowing whether you can do it or not unless you try it, and a part of it is mental too because if you give in to the pain you might feel then it will make you less likely to finish the climb.
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You misinterpreted. I didn't judge the pedals based on that sample. I'm just not looking to run out and emulate him. I have no issues with my Speedplay Zeros and see no reason to try a different pedal system, especially one as uncommon as Bebop.
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I'm training for an MS Century Irvine to San Diego. I've only been riding about 2 months and the ride is next month. I was talking to a guy that rode it last year. I don't know how long he'd been riding for at that time but he said that the La Jolla hill was too steep to ride so he walked up it. Is this OK? I mean it seems so unnatural to be walking in my cycling shoes clippity clappity up the hill. At what point does it make sense to walk? When you're spinning like a top but going nowhere? I've been playing out different scenarios. Should I take some slides to wear when I'm walking. Use regular pedals and where regular shoes. Just Curious...
If so, it has enough switchbacks that it's not really that steep. If you're not used to climbing hills, it will be hard, but I don't think it would make you walk if you legitimately trained to be able to do a 100+ mile ride.
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Glad to see that you've been working on your intensiy.
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No matter what hill/climb I've faced, I've never stopped. I've found selecting the right gear way before any climb is key. And having the mindset that no matter what, I will finish this climb (and not go backwards)....
I would never want to walk in my bike shoes on any grade, especially a steep one...
I would never want to walk in my bike shoes on any grade, especially a steep one...
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For me it is never okay to walk, but this is not a macho thing but rather a state of mind that I have adopted that enables me to climb any hill. I think that if you allow the option of walking to enter your mind on a climb, you have given yourself a get out that you will inevitably take when the going gets tough.
If you don't have that in your mind as an option then you just keep pushing...if the grade brings you to a halt no matter what, then there you go, but you didn't give up but rather got physically stopped. That's just me though, and I really like climbing hills...
If you don't have that in your mind as an option then you just keep pushing...if the grade brings you to a halt no matter what, then there you go, but you didn't give up but rather got physically stopped. That's just me though, and I really like climbing hills...
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I'm training for an MS Century Irvine to San Diego. I've only been riding about 2 months and the ride is next month. I was talking to a guy that rode it last year. I don't know how long he'd been riding for at that time but he said that the La Jolla hill was too steep to ride so he walked up it. Is this OK? I mean it seems so unnatural to be walking in my cycling shoes clippity clappity up the hill. At what point does it make sense to walk? When you're spinning like a top but going nowhere? I've been playing out different scenarios. Should I take some slides to wear when I'm walking. Use regular pedals and where regular shoes. Just Curious...
I later talked to him about it and told him that those were the two examples of guts on a bike that I had ever seen.
His response.....I would rather die than touch ground.
When I got to the last climb at 3 State 3 Mountain and the grade got up to some ridiculous number...something like 1 million percent. I was watching just about everyone push up this climb. The voices were playing in my head. I remembered that I had climbed worse (brasstown) but my body still wanted to dismount. I thought of my friend. I thought of his effort. I remembered, "I would rather die than touch ground" and I freaking made it.
What is the moral of the story? You don't know what you can do until you push yourself to the limit and beyond. The mind does amazing things even if you body wants to quit.
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I've been on many large organized rides where riders just give up right in the middle of the road on tough climbs. Walk or take a rest if you need to, but please pull over to the right first.